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Wreckless4thf
04-17-2008, 02:26 PM
To make the class fit more people, make more happy, be more inline for the Bounty type cars, and not take as much time to run we have modified the rules a bit. No more stupid laps around the track or closed hood policy. These rules are being reviewed by Donnie so there not final just yet but should have an answer tonight. First race will be May 17th.

Pro Street:

REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIFICATIONS

EXHAUST SYSTEM
Mufflers, suitable for highway use, required. Exhaust must be routed towards the rear or sides of the vehicle. Turbocharged vehicles exempt. Tail pipes not required.

ENGINE SETBACK
Permitted. Must not touch stock unmodified firewall.
FUEL
Any generally available GASOLINE permitted. This means NO ALCOHOL, Nitro Methane or E-85 Included(in the car or in your body) Any type of RACING GASOLINE PERMITTED.

FUEL SYSTEM
Properly mounted fuel tank or fuel cell required. No fuel cells inside driver compartment without a firewall seperating driver from fuel cell.and being properly mounted per NHRA, IHRA rules.

RADIATOR
Front mounted radiator required. Water pump and fan may be electrically driven.

NITROUS OXIDE
Permitted. Must be properly installed according to manufacturer’s recommendations.

SUPERCHARGERS / TURBOCHARGERS
Single supercharger or turbocharger permitted ON SMALL BLOCKS ONLY. Single roots style supercharger permitted. (6-71 roots style only) The only intercooler allowed will be air to air. No air to water intercoolers permitted.

TRANSMISSION
Any type transmission permitted. Reverse gear mandatory. Any shifting mechanism permitted. Neutral safety switch mandatory for automatic transmissions.

SUSPENSION
Front stock type suspension mandatory. Coil-over struts and shocks permitted, may replace OEM coil or leaf springs. Aftermarket leaf springs or heavy duty upper / lower rear control arms permitted, must bolt to the OEM locations on the chassis and the rear axle housing. Tubular front A-arms permitted. Any type anti sway bar system permitted. Ladder bars and 4 links permitted with weight penalty.

WHEELIE BARS
Not-Permitted

BALLAST
Permitted. Must be properly mounted. Loose ballast, tools, jacks, etc. not permitted.

FRAME
Stock OEM frame required front to rear.

PARACHUTE
Permitted Required for car over 150 mph.

TIRES & WHEELS
DOT approved and marked rear tires required.... Small block single stage nitrous or N/A cars are allowed to run a 29.5 Non W Slick..... Dual Stage Nitrous Small Block Cars and Big Block 1 stage cars, limited to a 28X10.5 Non W Slick.... All Forced Induction Cars have to run a DOT Tire no size requirement but must fit car with STOCK FRAME RAILS and not exceed 1" from fender.

INTERIOR:
UPHOLSTERY
Approved and upholstered driver’s seat and passanger seat required , rear seat may be removed. Must have full carpet and factory style dash and headliner.

BODY Stock, steel production body shell required. Must maintain original height, width, length and contour. Hoods, Doors, Decklids, Fenders, may be fiberglass.

FIREWALL
Stock OEM firewall mandatory.

STREET EQUIPMENT
Working headlights, tail lights, brake lights, . All items are subject to inspection by tech officials.

ELECTRICAL:

BATTERY
Maximum of two batteries permitted. An approved ON/OFF switch required for any battery re-location.

DELAY BOXES :Permitted

Nitrous Controllers/Boost Controllers: Permitted

FIRE EXTINGUISHER SYSTEM
A correctly mounted fire extinguisher is strongly recommended.

DRIVER
All applicable safety equipment and apparel for the speed and ET required.

TECH PROCEDURE
All participating vehicles will be required to weigh before first round of time trials.

COMPETITION PROCEDURE
Pro Street Cars will be laddered and will race on a .400 Pro Tree. Cars will be weighed in tech and there will be random checks for weight throughout the race. *** MAKE SURE YOU CAR WILL MEET YOUR MINIMUM WEIGHT REQUIREMENT THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH GAS YOU USE*** Any car that weighs less than his/her minimum weight during a random weight check will be disqualified at that time!!!

Entry fee will be $40.00

The weight structure are as follows.

2700#'s Small Block (One Stage)

2800#'s Small Block (2 Stages)

3000#'s Big Block (Limited to 1 Stage)

3200#'s Small Block Turbo/Supercharger (Air To Air Intercooler Only)

Take away 100#'s for N/A

Add 50#'s Fogger Instead Of Plate Per Stage

Add 50# Ladder Bar Any Car

Add 100# 4 Link Any Car



After 3 Wins In One Year Car Must Move Up To Outlaw

Outlaw Rules

Must have working doors

Frame must be stock from firewall forward

Must have working headlights and tail lights

Must have mufflers

No open wheel cars

Must have sfi equipment for et achieved IHRA RULEBOOK

Weights
Small block nos 2800
Big block nos 3000
Small block blown 3000
Big block blown 3200

Pro Street Entry 40.00
Pro Street Payout 75.00 per car entered

Outlaw Entry 50.00
Outlaw Payout 100.00 per car entered

outlaw68
04-17-2008, 07:26 PM
I like OUTLAW... MUCH BETTER!!
Now If I can get the junker done in time.

outlaw68
04-17-2008, 07:29 PM
what will outlaw pay?

Wreckless4thf
04-17-2008, 08:17 PM
what will outlaw pay?

The payouts ain't been worked out yet but I would say Outlaw will pay what it did last year. When he tells me I will post it.

65 Camino
04-17-2008, 09:58 PM
Crap, that puts me in the Outlaw class. OK Jim, if you and I were to line up first round (essentially a bye round for you) you have to put on a blind fold after the burnout and can't take it off til you hear me leave..THEN you can run me down LOL. Looks like you should get a good crowd with these rules Allan.

R/ Dave

outlaw68
04-17-2008, 10:18 PM
call me DAVE.. When you get a chance..

Wreckless4thf
04-17-2008, 10:23 PM
Crap, that puts me in the Outlaw class. OK Jim, if you and I were to line up first round (essentially a bye round for you) you have to put on a blind fold after the burnout and can't take it off til you hear me leave..THEN you can run me down LOL. Looks like you should get a good crowd with these rules Allan.

R/ Dave

Did that knock you out of Pro Street Dave??? That was not my intentions at all I swear. Is your Camino rear halved???

Tom
04-18-2008, 12:22 AM
not poking fun, allan, but pro street generally means only one thing in the automotive world....TUBBED. :D

Tom
04-18-2008, 12:25 AM
it's kind of ironic that by your rules, you can't run a pro street car in pro street. :D

Wreckless4thf
04-18-2008, 11:09 AM
it's kind of ironic that by your rules, you can't run a pro street car in pro street. :D

Well dam, I had it set up for that and everyone bitched about the big tire being allowed, now it's the other way and :doh3:

Tom
04-18-2008, 06:59 PM
I'm not bitching. you can't make everyone happy, allan. you just have to draw enough cars for the event to grow. there aren't that many big tired cars out there anymore. at least not street cars.

I was going to run outlaw until this stock front framerail crap was posted. I liked donnie's original rules better. 3000 lbs and through the mufflers. the turn out has dwindled with open rules. tighter rules will not draw more cars.

some of us choose not to run cookie cutter cars like mustangs and first gen camaros. bolt on front suspension parts are non existent for cars that are different from the run of the mill. there is no way I could have fit everything into my car with a stock front. and even if I could have, it would have been dangerous. these bolt on deals are nothing but tube clips held on with bolts anyway. I really can't see any difference myself.

...anyway, you are doing a fine job with rules for a new class, allan. don't let people discourage you.

Wreckless4thf
04-18-2008, 07:11 PM
I'm not bitching. you can't make everyone happy, allan. you just have to draw enough cars for the event to grow. there aren't that many big tired cars out there anymore. at least not street cars.

I was going to run outlaw until this stock front framerail crap was posted. I liked donnie's original rules better. 3000 lbs and through the mufflers. the turn out has dwindled with open rules. tighter rules will not draw more cars.

some of us choose not to run cookie cutter cars like mustangs and first gen camaros. bolt on front suspension parts are non existent for cars that are different from the run of the mill. there is no way I could have fit everything into my car with a stock front. and even if I could have, it would have been dangerous. these bolt on deals are nothing but tube clips held on with bolts anyway. I really can't see any difference myself.

...anyway, you are doing a fine job with rules for a new class, allan. don't let people discourage you.

Just trying to help build a class that will be popular with the racers and stock front rails is popular right now. Tube chassis cars are a thing of the past, that is why I sold mine and bought a cookie cutter so I could race something other than bracket crap. I agree with what you say though it's just the majority don't see it like we do lol. Donnie has not approved these rules yet so we will see.

Tom
04-18-2008, 07:35 PM
tube cars are nowhere near a thing of the past. they are stronger, lighter and safer than stock suspension cars. there are thousands upon thousands of tube chassis cars on the street. go to a streetrod show and have a look at some of them.

I just don't care for fox mustangs. there are just too many out there and they all look alike. and it seems that every class in drag racing is built around them. if they are going to require stock suspensions, they should not allow heim joints in any of the pieces. then it would be stock suspension.

Wreckless4thf
04-18-2008, 07:44 PM
tube cars are nowhere near a thing of the past. they are stronger, lighter and safer than stock suspension cars. there are thousands upon thousands of tube chassis cars on the street. go to a streetrod show and have a look at some of them.

I just don't care for fox mustangs. there are just too many out there and they all look alike. and it seems that every class in drag racing is built around them. if they are going to require stock suspensions, they should not allow heim joints in any of the pieces. then it would be stock suspension.

Different strokes for different folks but the classes that allow tube cars are few and far between and if you can't run in Top Sportsman, Pro 5.0, Pro Mod, your just about stuck with bracket racing. And no I don't see many tube cars on the street or even big tire back half cars anymore.

Wreckless4thf
04-18-2008, 07:50 PM
Oh and bye the way there was 1 tube chassis that ran Outlaw last year that I know of at 411 and he ain't running this year.

Tom
04-18-2008, 07:57 PM
there's still nothing like driving a radical 5 sec car on the street and occasionally wasting a liter bike or busa while most 10.5 "street cars" are hauled around on stretchers. I'm a hardcore street car guy. I believe that if it can't be driven for daily transportation if needed, then it's a race car. while it may be hard to believe, I drove the vette ALOT if the weather was nice. it was cheaper on gas than anything I owned. she pulled down over 20 mpg on the highway where my exterra and dodge 2500 both got around 17.

Tom
04-18-2008, 07:58 PM
Oh and bye the way there was 1 tube chassis that ran Outlaw last year that I know of at 411 and he ain't running this year.

the firebird???

65 Camino
04-18-2008, 09:40 PM
Allan,

I'm not back-halved but I don't think the 327 badges on the fenders are fooling too many people once the hood comes off. My BBC with the mechanically enhanced induction takes me out. Like Tom, I like and built a car that is an oddball. If it doesn't fit the rules that draw in better car counts for the track, that's not your fault. DO what you need to do for the race. I am not offended and will never bitch about it. IF I don't have to work, I may fill it up on 93 pump gas and show up anyway. Test between rounds and show em what pump gas can do. hehehe

Jim, I'm working Sat and Sun this weekend. I'll try to call sometime during one of those days.

R/ Dave

Wreckless4thf
04-18-2008, 09:47 PM
Allan,

I'm not back-halved but I don't think the 327 badges on the fenders are fooling too many people once the hood comes off. My BBC with the mechanically enhanced induction takes me out. Like Tom, I like and built a car that is an oddball. If it doesn't fit the rules that draw in better car counts for the track, that's not your fault. DO what you need to do for the race. I am not offended and will never bitch about it. IF I don't have to work, I may fill it up on 93 pump gas and show up anyway. Test between rounds and show em what pump gas can do. hehehe

Jim, I'm working Sat and Sun this weekend. I'll try to call sometime during one of those days.



R/ Dave

With the hp ur making u would do well in Outlaw, you still got slicks as well as your DOT's right? Just turn it up and let that fat block eat lol.

5 sec DART jr
04-19-2008, 03:45 AM
im close to being ready. i wish the 25th test and tune was 1 week later. iv got to plug the intake pushrod holes in the heads, relocate and drill the pushrod hole back through the heads, "8 holes"... iv got to put tubes in the holes and epoxy them next....no big deal. ill do it this week.
i need to get a pushrod lenght and get those coming.
i put the crank and cam shaft in it friday afternoon.
i got the plate for the bottom of the intake made and bolted down.
it has to have some finishing portwork done on it.
fial assy. and she ready to go on the engine dyno.
im shooting for 600 hp, and 480 lb ft of torque.

Wreckless4thf
04-21-2008, 10:04 AM
The rules are good to go. Big blocks can run fogger with weight penalty on 28X10.5 slicks but one stage only.

Pro Street Entry 40.00 paying 75.00 per car to win.
Outlaw Entry 50.00 paying 100.00 per car to win.

Hope to see you all next month:D

Wreckless4thf
05-01-2008, 12:30 PM
One last rule change and we are racing. ANYONE regardless of combination can run a 10.5X28 non w slick, the DOT tire will have no size requirement, it must fit in the stock unaltered wheel tub and not exceed 1" from fender lip. Hopefully this will be the last rule change.

Blue_gt
06-12-2008, 10:07 PM
So I cant run your pro street beacouse of my air to water intercooler correct????

Wreckless4thf
06-12-2008, 10:09 PM
So I cant run your pro street beacouse of my air to water intercooler correct????


Incorrect, yes you can.

Wreckless4thf
06-12-2008, 10:12 PM
So I cant run your pro street beacouse of my air to water intercooler correct????


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