Flooding in Midwest

[tat2darmygirl]

MAKES YOU THINK....


Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and helping the folks affected by the floods?

Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and trailers) are?

Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa people to fre e hotels in Chicago?

When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines?

Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?

Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets?

When will we hear Governor Chet Culver say that he wants to rebuild a "vanilla" Iowa, because that's the way God wants it?

Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of cannibalism?

W here are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural people?

How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the Iowa flooding ever again?

[ProStreetZ28]

Exactly, because the white people of the Mid-west don't need to blame the Government for the problems in their life's. The people of the mid-west will bury their dead, rebuild the levees and rebuild the entire area without claiming that FEMA fucked them. Why??? I think it's a simple matter of pride and how they were raised, but that's just my opinion. These people take responsability for their own lives and instead of going out and looting they'd rather help their neighbor rebuild. As for the Vanilla comment, what if we listed a college as a white college? well they have plenty of black colleges (there is even a web-site devoted to helping them find a black collegehttp://http://www.blackcollegesearch.com/

[fat rat]

i bet BET TV doesnt have any coverage on this

[ProStreetZ28]

i bet BET TV doesnt have any coverage on this

I'll be you're right, and imagaine Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are nowhere to be found in this, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder why?

[fat rat]

odd isnt it

[Thacker Returns]

odd isnt it

You're black, you should know.

[PushRod]

Exactly, because the white people of the Mid-west don't need to blame the Government for the problems in their life's. The people of the mid-west will bury their dead, rebuild the levees and rebuild the entire area without claiming that FEMA fucked them. Why??? I think it's a simple matter of pride and how they were raised, but that's just my opinion. These people take responsability for their own lives and instead of going out and looting they'd rather help their neighbor rebuild. As for the Vanilla comment, what if we listed a college as a white college? well they have plenty of black colleges (there is even a web-site devoted to helping them find a black collegehttp://http://www.blackcollegesearch.com/

2nd that.

[vortech_95-gt]

All very good points. Maybe if more Blacks lived in Iowa they would receive the help they need. Mother nature doesn't discriminate does she?????

[305/LT1]

WOW! Another racist thread..................

Funny how no one has talked about the 2,000 people who died in Katrina!!
Oh, im sorry, The mid west is not under 20 feet of standing water. Carry on....

[Gone In 5 Seconds]

WOW! Another racist thread..................

Funny how no one has talked about the 2,000 people who died in Katrina!!
Oh, im sorry, The mid west is not under 20 feet of water. Carry on....Katrina was how many years ago? No one has talked about the people that died from Katrina? You can't be serious. I know....I know.....The floods of the mid-west is George Bush's fault as well, huh?

[305/LT1]

Katrina was how many years ago? No one has talked about the people that died from Katrina? You can't be serious. I know....I know.....The floods of the mid-west is George Bush's fault as well, huh?

Sure it's Bush's Fault!! HUH?

[305/LT1]

Remember that you are comparing rain storms to a hurricane. 10,15mph winds to a cat. 5 with 140-150mph winds plus way more rain. I mean come on, Lets be for real today!

[ProStreetZ28]

The people that stayed (and those that died) in New Orleans are stupid, they were given the same evac orders as the white people that left New Orleans. Where was Jesse Jackson during the evacuation, why didn't he line up buses to get the people out that had no way to get out??? Because then he wouldn't have had a stage to slam the white people from afterwards (only an opinion). Why didn't Sharpton get church buses down there to get them out, because then they couldn't have blamed the government afterwards. After Andrew we didn't get FEMA trailers to live in, we barely got water. We had people charging 2-3 times what things were worth, but we all made it. Pure and Simple, if you stay in a city that is on average 6 feet below sea-level when a CAT 5 storm in coming you are a moron I don't care what anyone says ( and I don't want to hear one word about how the levee's should have held, they were never designed to withstand a CAT 5 storm). Second anyone that thought they were safe in a CAT 5 storm in a 100+ year old home is a moron. Then you have the animals that were in the dome, what can be said about them. I've been in a shelter during a storm and NEVER dealt with any of that. It just proves that they are nothing more than animals. Did the levees break, YES. Could they not have walked/waded 10 blocks to get out of it? I've been to New Orleans you could walk to one of the levees in less then an hour, waded to one in less than two hours. So why did they all stay in a flooded area? Why did they steal TVs, Shoes (why do you need shoes in 3 ft of water). After Andrew we had to find our own housing to get by until our houses were repaired, NO FEMA trailers, why is it because we are white? My sister's house in Apopka Florida took three years to get rebuilt, did they send her a FEMA trailer to live in, NO!!!! Why? She got hit with three storms tha year, was that Bush's fault also?

[ProStreetZ28]

Remember that you are comparing rain storms to a hurricane. 10,15mph winds to a cat. 5 with 140-150mph winds plus way more rain. I mean come on, Lets be for real today!

Exactly, these people have more of a reason to complain, but they're not. In Katrina there was a 14+ foot storm surge in New Orleans, but there was a 27+ foot storm surge total.

[ProStreetZ28]

WOW! Another racist thread.................

All was stated is that we want equality, isn't that the same thign the black community asked for and what King preached for????? But they have black colleges and black churches, but we can't have a white college or a white country club? Where is the equality in that? All this thread is doing is pointing out that the poeple of Iowa & Illinois haven't cried like little bitches because the levees failed.

[305/LT1]

All was stated is that we want equality, isn't that the same thign the black community asked for and what King preached for????? But they have black colleges and black churches, but we can't have a white college or a white country club? Where is the equality in that? All this thread is doing is pointing out that the poeple of Iowa & Illinois haven't cried like little bitches because the levees failed.

That's just a name for the colleges and churches. Whites attend them to. Lets not make it out like that means BLACK ONLY! There is no difference in this, just like an all white high school and an all black high school. BUT People in Iowa and Illinois are not trapped in a ses pool and hit by a hurricane. At least the water has some place to go! IF you sat in that shit for a week then you would be Bitching also. Keep it real. And 3 people died in the SUPER DOME from natural causes not MASS RAPE AND MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!! Those people were accused of looting but when they reported of whites looting then they were just getting things that they needed to survive! Bull SHIT!!! IF you get a chance ask someone who was in that shit before you come to conclusions. That's exactly what I did and I found out the truth! I worked with about 15 of them at my old job and I have friends from New Orleans.

[Atlanta_Tider]

The people that stayed (and those that died) in New Orleans are stupid, they were given the same evac orders as the white people that left New Orleans. Where was Jesse Jackson during the evacuation, why didn't he line up buses to get the people out that had no way to get out??? Because then he wouldn't have had a stage to slam the white people from afterwards (only an opinion). Why didn't Sharpton get church buses down there to get them out, because then they couldn't have blamed the government afterwards. After Andrew we didn't get FEMA trailers to live in, we barely got water. We had people charging 2-3 times what things were worth, but we all made it. Pure and Simple, if you stay in a city that is on average 6 feet below sea-level when a CAT 5 storm in coming you are a moron I don't care what anyone says ( and I don't want to hear one word about how the levee's should have held, they were never designed to withstand a CAT 5 storm). Second anyone that thought they were safe in a CAT 5 storm in a 100+ year old home is a moron. Then you have the animals that were in the dome, what can be said about them. I've been in a shelter during a storm and NEVER dealt with any of that. It just proves that they are nothing more than animals. Did the levees break, YES. Could they not have walked/waded 10 blocks to get out of it? I've been to New Orleans you could walk to one of the levees in less then an hour, waded to one in less than two hours. So why did they all stay in a flooded area? Why did they steal TVs, Shoes (why do you need shoes in 3 ft of water). After Andrew we had to find our own housing to get by until our houses were repaired, NO FEMA trailers, why is it because we are white? My sister's house in Apopka Florida took three years to get rebuilt, did they send her a FEMA trailer to live in, NO!!!! Why? She got hit with three storms tha year, was that Bush's fault also?
Well said, funny how 305 completely dodged a post that has the truth and plenty of it....

[ProStreetZ28]

That's just a name for the colleges and churches. Whites attend them to. Lets not make it out like that means BLACK ONLY! There is no difference in this, just like an all white high school and an all black high school. BUT People in Iowa and Illinois are not trapped in a ses pool and hit by a hurricane. At least the water has some place to go! IF you sat in that shit for a week then you would be Bitching also. Keep it real. And 3 people died in the SUPER DOME from natural causes not MASS RAPE AND MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!! Those people were accused of looting but when they reported of whites looting then they were just getting things that they needed to survive! Bull SHIT!!! IF you get a chance ask someone who was in that shit before you come to conclusions. That's exactly what I did and I found out the truth! I worked with about 15 of them at my old job and I have friends from New Orleans.

I have asked people that live there, I have a bunch of friends that I boat with down there. They'll be the first to tell you that if the people stayed in New Orleans they were morons. It's not rocket science that if it floods you leave until the water goes down. The dumb fucks down there stayed there and did nothing but loot and bitch. Did you see any of them on the levees filling sand bags or helping in ANY way? NO, becasue it's easier for them to sit there and bitch that they are being mis-treated. Those people wouldn't wouldn't even walk/wade to get out of the "cesspool" . The stayed there and bitched. I don't see anyone that stayed inthier home in Iowa/Illinois area bitching that it flooded, do you??? Have you ever been to New Orleans, I have I've seen the area that was flooded. I've seen first hand how far they had to walk to get out of the water. So yea I spoke to people there, I've been there and I've been through Hurricanes. Have you? I was just in Iowa last week, were you? I was in Illionois the night the tornados went through. So if you want to compare my experience with your "talking to people" go ahead, but it'll make you look really dumb. As for the natural deaths, that's fine but are you going to blame Bush for a "natural death"? How many youg girls were raped in the Superdome? How many elderly people were beaten? When Andrew came ashore Suzette and I went to my Mom's house. Why, becasue our house sat at 6 feet below sea level, hmmmm that's about the same as New Orleans. I didn't even need to be told to leave, common sense told me that a strong CAT 4 storm was going to drive the storm surge at least to our house (PS-our house was about five miles from the shore line). And let guess the people you spoke to stayed in New Orleans for the storm, in other words some really smart people.

[66coupe]

All was stated is that we want equality, isn't that the same thign the black community asked for and what King preached for????? But they have black colleges and black churches, but we can't have a white college or a white country club? Where is the equality in that? All this thread is doing is pointing out that the poeple of Iowa & Illinois haven't cried like little bitches because the levees failed.

While I agree with many of the points in this thread, your statement above leaves a little to be desired. The difference in churches and colleges is that the "black" ones would invite anyone in. Historically, the "white" churches and colleges restricted who could attend.

[ProStreetZ28]

While I agree with many of the points in this thread, your statement above leaves a little to be desired. The difference in churches and colleges is that the "black" ones would invite anyone in. Historically, the "white" churches and colleges restricted who could attend.

Sorry it offended you, but if you look back I never said that white's couldn't attend a Black College or a Black Church. I did ask why they can have (call it) black colleges and black churches, more to the point how fast would Jesse Jackson, Al Shrpton and the NAACP be here to sue them over calling it a white (or even calling it a predominantly white)church or college. To my knowledge there has never been a lawsuit claiming that is was racist for a college to call itself a black college, but I'll bet that you can search a legal database and find more then one lwsuit for something calling itself a white something.

[305/LT1]

Well said, funny how 305 completely dodged a post that has the truth and plenty of it....

What the fuck did I dodge?

[305/LT1]

I have asked people that live there, I have a bunch of friends that I boat with down there. They'll be the first to tell you that if the people stayed in New Orleans they were morons. It's not rocket science that if it floods you leave until the water goes down. The dumb fucks down there stayed there and did nothing but loot and bitch. Did you see any of them on the levees filling sand bags or helping in ANY way? NO, becasue it's easier for them to sit there and bitch that they are being mis-treated. Those people wouldn't wouldn't even walk/wade to get out of the "cesspool" . The stayed there and bitched. I don't see anyone that stayed inthier home in Iowa/Illinois area bitching that it flooded, do you??? Have you ever been to New Orleans, I have I've seen the area that was flooded. I've seen first hand how far they had to walk to get out of the water. So yea I spoke to people there, I've been there and I've been through Hurricanes. Have you? I was just in Iowa last week, were you? I was in Illionois the night the tornados went through. So if you want to compare my experience with your "talking to people" go ahead, but it'll make you look really dumb. As for the natural deaths, that's fine but are you going to blame Bush for a "natural death"? How many youg girls were raped in the Superdome? How many elderly people were beaten? When Andrew came ashore Suzette and I went to my Mom's house. Why, becasue our house sat at 6 feet below sea level, hmmmm that's about the same as New Orleans. I didn't even need to be told to leave, common sense told me that a strong CAT 4 storm was going to drive the storm surge at least to our house (PS-our house was about five miles from the shore line). And let guess the people you spoke to stayed in New Orleans for the storm, in other words some really smart people.

The BS in the superdome never happened. NO mass rape, No beating of the elderly and what about the pics of the cops standing on the bridge blocking it off so they could not get out of the flooded area???? Where did you talk about that???? Your mom had a place to go before Andrew, some people in New Orleans didnt have a place to go. Did you see the thousands of people walking up the interstate? If the people in New Orleans would have known that the levees were going to break dont you think they would have left even if they didnt have any where else to go? Where do you all keep getting that the storm was BUSH'S fault???? That the most ignorant statement that I have ever herd!! These people had no where to go end of story!

[305/LT1]

While I agree with many of the points in this thread, your statement above leaves a little to be desired. The difference in churches and colleges is that the "black" ones would invite anyone in. Historically, the "white" churches and colleges restricted who could attend.

That's what most of the people on this board refuse to accept....... You know, to keep it racially charged.:wall:

[ProStreetZ28]

What the fuck did I dodge?
Well for one where was Jackson & Sharpton before the storm, why weren't they helping get the people out?

Why didn't they send FEMA trailers for us to live in after Andrew?

Why didn't they walk to safety instead of just sitting there and bitching about it?

Have you ever been to New Orleans, and if not are you basing your information on what other people say?

what did they need to steal shoes for if they are in three feet of water?

[305/LT1]

Well for one where was Jackson & Sharpton before the storm, why weren't they helping get the people out?

Why didn't they send FEMA trailers for us to live in after Andrew?

Why didn't they walk to safety instead of just sitting there and bitching about it?

Have you ever been to New Orleans, and if not are you basing your information on what other people say?

what did they need to steal shoes for if they are in three feet of water?

1. Sharpton and Jackson had other things going on like fighting racial injustice and had no clue of the events that were going to take place.

2. That's beyond me? Florida are used to hurricanes.

3. They tried to walk out of the city but the police would not let them cross the bridge out of the city. They stood on top of the bridge with SHOT GUNS pointed at them telling them not to cross.

4.No I have not been to New Orleans. That's why I asked questions to black and whites from the area to hear both sides of the story and they were the same.

5.Maybe they needed new shoes in case they get rescued. Why could they have just been getting supplies that they need like the white looters were accused of doing?

[ProStreetZ28]

The BS in the superdome never happened. NO mass rape, No beating of the elderly and what about the pics of the cops standing on the bridge blocking it off so they could not get out of the flooded area???? Where did you talk about that???? Your mom had a place to go before Andrew, some people in New Orleans didnt have a place to go. Did you see the thousands of people walking up the interstate? If the people in New Orleans would have known that the levees were going to break dont you think they would have left even if they didnt have any where else to go? Where do you all keep getting that the storm was BUSH'S fault???? That the most ignorant statement that I have ever herd!! These people had no where to go end of story!

There ar eplenty of articles that support both point of views, so they could be unfounded, but unless you were there you can't say for sure. I've never heard that before, but if they had left when the evacuation order came down it wouldn't have happened. Nothing personal, but why is it President Bush's fault that they didn't have anywhere to go? The fact is they did put an evacuation order in effect becasue NO ONE knew what would happen with the levees, they stayed (for whatever reason) then afterwards bitched that the government didn't do anything to protect them, once again the fact that they remained in an evacuated area had NOTHING to do with them being in harm's way. They violated the evacuation, that makes them responsible for their own safety. That's the way it has always been, they just wanted to bitch that they had nowhere to go and that the government should drop whatever it is doing to come save them. FUCK THEM. Anyone that has ever lived in a hurricane area and been through a few hurricanes knows this.

[ProStreetZ28]

1. Sharpton and Jackson had other things going on like fighting racial injustice and had no clue of the events that were going to take place.

2. That's beyond me? Florida are used to hurricanes.

3. They tried to walk out of the city but the police would not let them cross the bridge out of the city. They stood on top of the bridge with SHOT GUNS pointed at them telling them not to cross.

4.No I have not been to New Orleans. That's why I asked questions to black and whites from the area to hear both sides of the story and they were the same.

5.Maybe they needed new shoes in case they get rescued. Why could they have just been getting supplies that they need like the white looters were accused of doing?

1. OK, what were they fighting? Everyone in America knew that a CAT 5 storm was coming, why didn't they drop everything and go help the people that ignored an evacuation order?

2. So is New Orleans, so what's the difference?

3.There is more than one bridge out of New Orleans.

4. Much like you I have spoken to plenty of people there, and I've been there in person.

5. I believe that they are just pieces of shit that have ZERO respect for the law or anyone else's property.

[Bugman]

The difference in churches and colleges is that the "black" ones would invite anyone in.

I can just see my fat ass smack dab in the middle of 200 blacks during a sermon out here. That is too funny.

We have plenty of black churches out here and trust me man whites are not welcome and if they did show up it would not be a good thing. This area is very racist area and at least 4-6 times a year we have bus loads of blacks come in remembrance of the Moore's Ford Slaying and they do nothing but cuss white people just before prayer.

Ironic but funny at the same time.

I am not into the racist game too much because it is a senseless argument that will never be settled but had to toss that in.

I will tell you this... My best friend for life and I mean since kindergarten is black and the best friend I could ever ask for. He is sitting on an Aircraft Carrier and has been for several years now making sure that we are safe while everyone is whining and bitching about racism and their rights. He would be the first to tell you as he has told me several times and I quote: I hate Niggers! His words and not mine but he does not see it as colors but as trash V.S. working America.

That's all and no offense meant to anyone.

In case you haven't heard of the MFL here is a link for ya!

http://www.onlineathens.com/1998/051598/0515.a1mooresford2.html

[vortech_95-gt]

These people had no where to go end of story!Thats a truly stupid comment , Please excuse my bluntness but damn.....staying and risking death because "you had nowhere to go" LOL. Go anywhere. Just leave and figure out somewhere safe to take refuge. Its common sense.
BTW are white people allowed to take advantage of the United Negro college fund?
Chris

[vortech_95-gt]

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3. They tried to walk out of the city but the police would not let them cross the bridge out of the city. They stood on top of the bridge with SHOT GUNS pointed at them telling them not to cross.


This was all after the fact. why didn't they leave like all of the "smart" folks when they first received word of the approaching storm?
Chris

[vortech_95-gt]

5.Maybe they needed new shoes in case they get rescued. Why could they have just been getting supplies that they need like the white looters were accused of doing?
Big screen TV's are not considered as a necessity to survive. Neither are $200 pairs of Nike's. why didn't they loot some hip waders and rain jackets?
Chris

[305/LT1]

Thats a truly stupid comment , Please excuse my bluntness but damn.....staying and risking death because "you had nowhere to go" LOL. Go anywhere. Just leave and figure out somewhere safe to take refuge. Its common sense.
BTW are white people allowed to take advantage of the United Negro college fund?
Chris

And go where? Jail for trespassing? Jail for loitering? They would have been homeless anyway so they were fucked all around. So why not stay and try to ride it out if you didnt have any other shelter.

[305/LT1]

This was all after the fact. why didn't they leave like all of the "smart" folks when they first received word of the approaching storm?
Chris

NO other relatives, No other shelter and they didnt know the levees would break.

[305/LT1]

Big screen TV's are not considered as a necessity to survive. Neither are $200 pairs of Nike's. why didn't they loot some hip waders and rain jackets?
Chris

The looters that you saw on T.V. were mainly young teens grabbing what they wanted. Why have you not mentioned the ones who were taking bread and water and were meet by police and forced to drop it into the water?

[305/LT1]

Why have any of you not mentioned any thing about the Tsunami and how we rushed over to another country to help some people who dont even pay taxes here!!!!!! How quick did our federal government respond over there? But it took them a week to respond to the Katrina victims! Maybe thats why they stood in the water for a week and bitched about the federal government. If you pay taxes and a natural disaster occurs I fell the government should help you out no matter where you live!! Shit our tax dollars run this damn place!!

[Boomer]

Now that's one thing that does piss me off... tax dollars going overseas to help others during their disasters... most of the time it seems like we're helping people who dislike America...

Most of the people who got hit by the Tsunami where the same ones cheering in the streets after the attack on 9/11... I considered the Tsunami Karma...

[slick86]

Why have any of you not mentioned any thing about the Tsunami and how we rushed over to another country to help some people who dont even pay taxes here!!!!!! How quick did our federal government respond over there? But it took them a week to respond to the Katrina victims! Maybe thats why they stood in the water for a week and bitched about the federal government. If you pay taxes and a natural disaster occurs I fell the government should help you out no matter where you live!! Shit our tax dollars run this damn place!!


and you should ask yourself why am i voting democrat when the majority of the house and senate are democratic there the one that make 90% of the decisions and you see the stupid decisions they make all the time and you want the whole office to be like that, it don't make any sense does it

[Boomer]

and you should ask yourself why am i voting democrat when the majority of the house and senate are democratic there the one that make 90% of the decisions and you see the stupid decisions they make all the time and you want the whole office to be like that, it don't make any sense does it

Well, it was only a couple years ago that the Congress became a Democrat majority... I don't have time to check dates right now, but I believe it was under Republican majority when the Tsunami hit.

[305/LT1]

Well, it was only a couple years ago that the Congress became a Democrat majority... I don't have time to check dates right now, but I believe it was under Republican majority when the Tsunami hit.

Agreed.

[Thacker Returns]

Last night when watching America's got talent two black guys told a very sad story of their uncle who saved two kids at a house during Katrina. The uncle put two kids out of his room and locked himself in the room and told the people to go away. He wanted them to waste time saving the kids and not himself. The uncle was as the black guys called him "wheel chair ridden"

Everyone stood up and clapped as the black guys cried at the heroics of their uncle.

To me, their uncle staying and dying was the equivalent of a baby turkey looking at the sky during a rainstorm and drowning. Not only did they have a weeks plus notice of the storm but the idiots wanted to stay there. The excuse they had no where to go doesn't apply. It would have cost them less than 500 to get a hotel in a nearby city for a few nights. Would this have saved their homes? No... their belongings? No, but it would have saved their lives.

Basic survival is an instinct I thought all humans possessed.

[Joey Hanie]

so let me get this straight, the government sucks, blacks get what ever they want and bitch about it, and all whites are jealous of that?

[Thacker Returns]

so let me get this straight, the government sucks, blacks get what ever they want and bitch about it, and all whites are jealous of that?

No, its the opposites.

Whites get whatever they want... and blacks complain.

THIS IS SO CONFUSING.

[Joey Hanie]

No, its the opposites.

Whites get whatever they want... and blacks complain.

THIS IS SO CONFUSING.
HUH? I thought they got all the trailers and stuff, and the whites didnt? I'm lost.........................

[ProStreetZ28]

NO other relatives, No other shelter and they didnt know the levees would break.

So that makes it OK to break the law and stay after an evacuation order is put into effect. Saying that they didn't know the levees would break is bullshit, why do you think they evacuated the city. If these people weren't smart enough to figure out that if there is an evacuation order the levees are in danger then maybe they learned a valuable lesson and won't be so stupid next time. Oh wait ,what am I thinking, they didn't take responsability for it they turned around and blamed other people for their problems. Oh well, we can dream. Personally I don't give a shit what ahppened tothe people that stayed in New Orleans. I know that sounds cold, but I believe they did it to themselves. The people that died in the hospitals and old folks homes, that does bother me. The owners of these facilities should have taken care of them.


We are getting off point here, the thread was point out the difference between the people of New Orleans (blaming everyone else for their problems) and the people of the mid-west (not blaming everyone else and getting things done). Pure and simple I haven't seen one news-cast with a person (white or black) sitting there bitching that FEMA hasn't givin them their cards yet, or bitching that the trailer aren't good enough (or safe enough). I haven't seen one person (once again white or black) blaming the government for the levees breaking.

As for the people of the Tsunami, the had NO warning and weren't put in harms way by their own desicion to stay in an area after it was evacuated. Sorry but compare apples to apples. Pure and simple if the people of New Orleans had evacuated they wouldn't have been in the trouble they were in, and to sit there and say that "They had nowhere to go" is total and complete bullshit. The order was in efffect and they dis-obeyed or ignored it.

[305/LT1]

Last night when watching America's got talent two black guys told a very sad story of their uncle who saved two kids at a house during Katrina. The uncle put two kids out of his room and locked himself in the room and told the people to go away. He wanted them to waste time saving the kids and not himself. The uncle was as the black guys called him "wheel chair ridden"

Everyone stood up and clapped as the black guys cried at the heroics of their uncle.

To me, their uncle staying and dying was the equivalent of a baby turkey looking at the sky during a rainstorm and drowning. Not only did they have a weeks plus notice of the storm but the idiots wanted to stay there. The excuse they had no where to go doesn't apply. It would have cost them less than 500 to get a hotel in a nearby city for a few nights. Would this have saved their homes? No... their belongings? No, but it would have saved their lives.

Basic survival is an instinct I thought all humans possessed.

You have no heart!!

[ProStreetZ28]

Why have any of you not mentioned any thing about the Tsunami and how we rushed over to another country to help some people who dont even pay taxes here!!!!!! How quick did our federal government respond over there? But it took them a week to respond to the Katrina victims! Maybe thats why they stood in the water for a week and bitched about the federal government. If you pay taxes and a natural disaster occurs I fell the government should help you out no matter where you live!! Shit our tax dollars run this damn place!!

The reason the Tsunami wasn't mentioned before you brought it up is simpy becasue it NOTHING to do with this topic, but since you want go off an a tangent we'll see how it compares to these two disasters.

Once again, you're bitching about the government not taking action fast enough, but your ignoring the fact that the people that stayed had broken the law. Why should the government rush in to save a bunch of law breakers? they did come in the day after with helicopters and start getting the people in the hospitals and such, so I don't see your point in comparing it to the Tsunami. If they stood in the shit filled water for a week it's there own problem, PERIOD! If I were there I would not have stood or stayed inthat shit I would have found a way out, so I would expect nothing less from them if they stayed it was through their own actions. But the difference is I take responsibility for my actions, as do the people of the mid-west.

Not that this makes any difference, but since you mentioned "Shit our tax dollars run this damn place!". How many of those people do you think really pay taxes. Remember the bottom 10% (by way of income) actually get money back from the government instead of paying taxes? So don't give me that shit

[305/LT1]

The reason the Tsunami wasn't mentioned before you brought it up is simpy becasue it NOTHING to do with this topic, but since you want go off an a tangent we'll see how it compares to these two disasters.

Once again, you're bitching about the government not taking action fast enough, but your ignoring the fact that the people that stayed had broken the law. Why should the government rush in to save a bunch of law breakers? they did come in the day after with helicopters and start getting the people in the hospitals and such, so I don't see your point in comparing it to the Tsunami. If they stood in the shit filled water for a week it's there own problem, PERIOD! If I were there I would not have stood or stayed inthat shit I would have found a way out, so I would expect nothing less from them if they stayed it was through their own actions. But the difference is I take responsibility for my actions, as do the people of the mid-west.

Not that this makes any difference, but since you mentioned "Shit our tax dollars run this damn place!". How many of those people do you think really pay taxes. Remember the bottom 10% (by way of income) actually get money back from the government instead of paying taxes? So don't give me that shit

Im not bitching about anything. Im just comparing the two situations with hurricane and a rain flood. And if you have a job you pay taxes. So these people paid taxes! Yea if you were there you would have been told to stay put just like the rest of them. You would have had to wait it out just like the rest. You would have died trying to escape the city in 110 degree heat or shot by the police blocking off the many exits out of the city. PERIOD!!

[305/LT1]

Last night when watching America's got talent two black guys told a very sad story of their uncle who saved two kids at a house during Katrina. The uncle put two kids out of his room and locked himself in the room and told the people to go away. He wanted them to waste time saving the kids and not himself. The uncle was as the black guys called him "wheel chair ridden"

Everyone stood up and clapped as the black guys cried at the heroics of their uncle.

To me, their uncle staying and dying was the equivalent of a baby turkey looking at the sky during a rainstorm and drowning. Not only did they have a weeks plus notice of the storm but the idiots wanted to stay there. The excuse they had no where to go doesn't apply. It would have cost them less than 500 to get a hotel in a nearby city for a few nights. Would this have saved their homes? No... their belongings? No, but it would have saved their lives.

Basic survival is an instinct I thought all humans possessed.

Seems like you got off at the fact that a black man in a wheel chair died saving two children. That's a real hero.

[305/LT1]

Remember the hurricane turned at the last minute so it only gave them a couple of day's maybe to get out of the inner city.

[305/LT1]

The reason the Tsunami wasn't mentioned before you brought it up is simpy becasue it NOTHING to do with this topic, but since you want go off an a tangent we'll see how it compares to these two disasters.

Once again, you're bitching about the government not taking action fast enough, but your ignoring the fact that the people that stayed had broken the law. Why should the government rush in to save a bunch of law breakers? they did come in the day after with helicopters and start getting the people in the hospitals and such, so I don't see your point in comparing it to the Tsunami. If they stood in the shit filled water for a week it's there own problem, PERIOD! If I were there I would not have stood or stayed inthat shit I would have found a way out, so I would expect nothing less from them if they stayed it was through their own actions. But the difference is I take responsibility for my actions, as do the people of the mid-west.

Not that this makes any difference, but since you mentioned "Shit our tax dollars run this damn place!". How many of those people do you think really pay taxes. Remember the bottom 10% (by way of income) actually get money back from the government instead of paying taxes? So don't give me that shit

I dont see your point of comparing some floods to a cat 5 hurricane! And HELP DID NOT ARRIVE THE NEXT DAY!!!!

[ProStreetZ28]

Im not bitching about anything. Im just comparing the two situations with hurricane and a rain flood. And if you have a job you pay taxes. So these people paid taxes! Yea if you were there you would have been told to stay put just like the rest of them. You would have had to wait it out just like the rest. You would have died trying to escape the city in 110 degree heat or shot by the police blocking off the many exits out of the city. PERIOD!!

"If you have a job you pay taxes" BULLSHIT, it's proven FACT that bottom 10% (by way of income) not only get the money they paid back, but they get more money then they paid. So NO they do not pay income tax. They pay sales tax, but that goes to the county & state (depending on local tax laws).

And NO I would not have stayed in a cesspool, I don't care I'd rather die trying to get out then stay. The fact is there were cops on ONE bridge that told them to stay, oh and this was only ONE day that they were up there. PS-I'm sure they were protecting some white folks anyway. Let me reiterate the point that if they had followed the law and evacuated when they were told this would not have happened. Pure and simple they stayed after the order was in place they are responsible for the own safety after that point. It is not the responsibility of the govenrment to save them after they told them to leave.

[ProStreetZ28]

I dont see your point of comparing some floods to a cat 5 hurricane! And HELP DID NOT ARRIVE THE NEXT DAY!!!!

We're not comparing the two events, were comparing how the people acted after both of these events, if you open your eyes you could see tht in the original post. But you'd rather run on tangets then stick to the topic. The two events are different, now one argues that. The fact is youpointed out the levees in the mid-west broke from a "rain storm" and the levees in New Orleans broke because of a CAT 5 storm. I don't know about you, but I'd expect damage to a levee system from a CAT 5 storm, but I wouldn't expect a levee to fail from a "rain storm". So if anyone has a reason to bitch (using your logic) it would be the people in the mid-west.

Well stories I read and saw on TV showed them getting the people out of the hospitals the next day, if saw something different feel free to post it. However the usual bullshit of "I heard from someone that was there" is just that bullshit.

[ProStreetZ28]

Remember the hurricane turned at the last minute so it only gave them a couple of day's maybe to get out of the inner city.
What does that have to with the price of tes in China since the earthquake, NOTHING. They were told to leave and choose to stay.

[ProStreetZ28]

Seems like you got off at the fact that a black man in a wheel chair died saving two children. That's a real hero.

How????? According to Thacker's story he locked himself in the room, that doesn't sound like a hero. For all we know there could have been plenty fo time to save him, I'd need to know more before placing judgement on this.

[ProStreetZ28]

Basic survival is an instinct I thought all humans possessed.

I guess not they sat in a cesspool for a week.

[305/LT1]

I have a guy that's going to drop in tonight who is from New Orleans and he will comment on the situation. Like I said before, most of these people had no where else to go and a lot of them died from trying to get out of the city like you are accusing them of not doing. If they have no car and live pay check to pay check so they cant even afford to stay in a hotel then where else where they suppose to go? You act like they could just take a 10 min walk and they would be out of harms way! We are talking about a city which was under 18-20 feet of water!! There were people sitting on roof tops watching bodies float down the fucking streets!!!! How the fuck are you going to walk out of that? Not to mention the gators swimming the streets! They only had a day or so notice to get out anyway. The only helicopters I saw were the ones taking pictures of citizens on the roof tops and covering mass crowds out side of the convention center. And they didnt even label them as citizens, they called them katrina refuges.

[305/LT1]

How????? According to Thacker's story he locked himself in the room, that doesn't sound like a hero. For all we know there could have been plenty fo time to save him, I'd need to know more before placing judgement on this.

You left out that he saved two kids.......

[305/LT1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XA4ZAXIfbA

Just somthing for you to think about.........

Do you really think you could have just walked your way out of this!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQVRIpXElI0

[Bugman]

They only had a day or so notice to get out anyway. The only helicopters I saw were the ones taking pictures of citizens on the roof tops and covering mass crowds out side of the convention center. And they didnt even label them as citizens, they called them katrina refuges.

If you were living paycheck to paycheck and not even a car to your name when they told you to evacuate or all your family and friends were gonna die you would sit there for 2 days and just wait for it to hit?

If someone told me that I had even 2 hours to get my family out of harms way I assure you that we would walk if we had to starting immediately. No doubt in my mind that if my family had even a slight chance of being in danger we would gladly take a hike and with 2 whole freaking days notice we would be out of the entire state by then and sleeping in the woods if need be but they would be SAFE!

I'll be damned if I am gonna sit There and hope for a miracle at the last minute and then bitch at everyone else when I was the one that didn't head the warnings.

Refugee's? I would call them outlaw's because they did not obey the warnings or leave when told to by officials.

2 DAYS!!!!!! Geezus Christ man that's a lot of time if ya ask me. I mean C'mon that is plenty of time for anyone to evacuate and remember the streets weren't 18-20 foot deep of water with bodies floating down the street when they were told to GTFO.



P.S. In that first video I see hundreds of cars and I have a hard time believing that none of them were running or all broke down. Most of them were in parking places. 2 DAYS!!!

[Bugman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XA4ZAXIfbA

Do you really think you could have just walked your way out of this!!!


No Sir and that's why I would have left when the told me to! By car, plane, bus, feet or what ever it took but you wouldn't find my azz on a rooftop begging for help after I was warned 2 days in advance.

Oh wait... These people have lived there their entire lives and knew what to expect... Hm WTF were they thinking?

[Thacker Returns]

LOL I can't find any compassion for any able bodied person in New Orleans. It was pure ignorance that they stayed.

It'd be different if the hurricane conjured itself out of no where and gave say a 2 hour notice... but 48 hours is a longgg time.

500 bucks to put your family in a hotel for a few nights to keep them out of harms way is a small price to pay.

I do feel bad for the people in the old folks homes... and hospitals that were left behind. That is something you wouldn't have seen anywhere else in the country however.

9/11 was a perfect example of how people rose up and helped each other. As is with the current flooding.

Katrina was a perfect example of a MUCH larger problem the black community in this country is facing.

[ProStreetZ28]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XA4ZAXIfbA

Just somthing for you to think about.........

Do you really think you could have just walked your way out of this!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQVRIpXElI0

If I need to I would have swam if I had to (either way I wouldn't have sat there and done nothing). Your ignoring the point, they didn't leave when they were told to, PERIOD. But insetad of beating a dead horse address the points that the people in the midwest aren't bitching for people to come save them, they aren't crying for help. They are crying becasue they lost everything, but they aren sitting on TV saying that government didn't protect them form it and the government should bring them FEMA trailers and FEMA debit cards and everything else. There is NO ARGUEMENT for the people that stayed in New Orleans (for whatever reason) and then sat there in the cesspool.

[ProStreetZ28]

LOL I can't find any compassion for any able bodied person in New Orleans. It was pure ignorance that they stayed.

It'd be different if the hurricane conjured itself out of no where and gave say a 2 hour notice... but 48 hours is a longgg time.

500 bucks to put your family in a hotel for a few nights to keep them out of harms way is a small price to pay.

I do feel bad for the people in the old folks homes... and hospitals that were left behind. That is something you wouldn't have seen anywhere else in the country however.

9/11 was a perfect example of how people rose up and helped each other. As is with the current flooding.

Katrina was a perfect example of a MUCH larger problem the black community in this country is facing.

I can't believe I'm going to say this. GOOD POINT Thacker!

[ProStreetZ28]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XA4ZAXIfbA

Just somthing for you to think about.........

Do you really think you could have just walked your way out of this!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQVRIpXElI0

Hmmmmm, one thing I didn't see once in that video was anyone helping to fill sand bags or HELPING in any way. If you see the images from the mid-west everyone in the community is out there helping in any way they can, whether it's filling sand bags, helping to boat people out or patroling the are to keep looters out. This I can tell you first hand I was out there last week, When I stayed in Iowa/Nebraska I saw them all getting staged to get things done. And it looked like everyone (white & black) were working together.

[305/LT1]

Hmmmmm, one thing I didn't see once in that video was anyone helping to fill sand bags or HELPING in any way. If you see the images from the mid-west everyone in the community is out there helping in any way they can, whether it's filling sand bags, helping to boat people out or patroling the are to keep looters out. This I can tell you first hand I was out there last week, When I stayed in Iowa/Nebraska I saw them all getting staged to get things done. And it looked like everyone (white & black) were working together.

Sand bags for what? It was already under 18ft of water! Everyone white and black were helping each other try to get out of the city in which they were told to stay in.

[305/LT1]

Hmmmmm, one thing I didn't see once in that video was anyone helping to fill sand bags or HELPING in any way. If you see the images from the mid-west everyone in the community is out there helping in any way they can, whether it's filling sand bags, helping to boat people out or patroling the are to keep looters out. This I can tell you first hand I was out there last week, When I stayed in Iowa/Nebraska I saw them all getting staged to get things done. And it looked like everyone (white & black) were working together.

Sand bags for what? It was already under 18ft of water! Everyone white and black were helping each other try to get out of the city in which they were told to stay in.

[Thacker Returns]

It seems 305 LT1 is getting his information about Katrina from the same sources he gets his George Bush info......

LOL.. claiming our government told people to stay in their homes. LMAO.

Dude, think about what your saying.
There was an evacuation ORDER given over 48 hours before Katrina even got close to the shore.

[Thacker Returns]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/


"New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city. (Watch video of mayor's announcement)"



The mayor even gave the order over 48 hours before landfall.
"Forecasters predicted the storm surge could reach 28 feet; the highest levees around New Orleans are 18 feet high."



Once again.. they predicted the disaster to come. YET PEOPLE STAYED.

Katrina was blamed for 7 deaths in florida.. and it florida a few days before it even got to New Orleans.

"Bush issues disaster declarations

President Bush announced Sunday that he had issued disaster declarations for Louisiana, Mississippi and parts of southern Florida. The declaration for Miami-Dade and Broward counties in Florida will allow residents there to apply for federal disaster aid.

"We'll do everything in our power to help the people and communities affected by this storm," he said.

The president urged anyone in the storm's path "to put their own safety and the safety of their families first by moving to safe ground.""



READ THE DAMN ARTICLE THEN KEEP SAYING YOUR LIES.

[Thacker Returns]

"Jesse St. Amant, the emergency management chief for Louisiana's southernmost Plaquemines Parish, said nearly 95 percent of the parish's 27,000-plus residents had fled by Sunday afternoon. Those who remained were being told that they are "gambling with their own lives.""

[305/LT1]

LOL I can't find any compassion for any able bodied person in New Orleans. It was pure ignorance that they stayed.

It'd be different if the hurricane conjured itself out of no where and gave say a 2 hour notice... but 48 hours is a longgg time.

500 bucks to put your family in a hotel for a few nights to keep them out of harms way is a small price to pay.

I do feel bad for the people in the old folks homes... and hospitals that were left behind. That is something you wouldn't have seen anywhere else in the country however.

9/11 was a perfect example of how people rose up and helped each other. As is with the current flooding.

Katrina was a perfect example of a MUCH larger problem the black community in this country is facing.

Yea do like you allways do and blame the black community for everything! They didnt have 500 extra bucks to pull out of their ass and go find a hotel! 9/11 didnt have a mostly black victim scale either..... It was a very different situation.

[Thacker Returns]

"I think they just don't believe something of this nature can ever happen in their lifespan, and I think they're going to be wrong," he said."



PURE IGNORANCE ON THE NEW ORLEANS RESIDENTS PARTS.

[Thacker Returns]

Yea do like you allways do and blame the black community for everything! They didnt have 500 extra bucks to pull out of their ass and go find a hotel! 9/11 didnt have a mostly black victim scale either..... It was a very different situation.

You are in complete denial if you do not think the black community as a whole doesn't have MAJOR issues to face.


I understand you are black and feel an obligation to defend your people... which is fine and good.

I have caught you blaming the white man on a few occasions. You believe the reason I am successful is because I am white. You believe the reason you were fired from Coweta county Sheriff's department is because you were black.

[Thacker Returns]

Yea do like you allways do and blame the black community for everything! They didnt have 500 extra bucks to pull out of their ass and go find a hotel! 9/11 didnt have a mostly black victim scale either..... It was a very different situation.

you are right, they didn't have 500 bucks because they ruined their credit from not paying their bills and don't have a job so they were living off welfare and the hurricane timed itself so it'd be right before the new welfare check was to arrive so they had no extra cash.

:fro:

Is that what you want to hear?

[305/LT1]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/


"New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency Sunday and ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city. (Watch video of mayor's announcement)"



The mayor even gave the order over 48 hours before landfall.
"Forecasters predicted the storm surge could reach 28 feet; the highest levees around New Orleans are 18 feet high."



Once again.. they predicted the disaster to come. YET PEOPLE STAYED.

Katrina was blamed for 7 deaths in florida.. and it florida a few days before it even got to New Orleans.

"Bush issues disaster declarations

President Bush announced Sunday that he had issued disaster declarations for Louisiana, Mississippi and parts of southern Florida. The declaration for Miami-Dade and Broward counties in Florida will allow residents there to apply for federal disaster aid.

"We'll do everything in our power to help the people and communities affected by this storm," he said.

The president urged anyone in the storm's path "to put their own safety and the safety of their families first by moving to safe ground.""



READ THE DAMN ARTICLE THEN KEEP SAYING YOUR LIES.

Who the fuck are you talking to? What part of they dont have any where to go dont you understand? These people were not rich or well off, they lived pay check to pay check! They had no choice but to try to ride it out!! The fuck were they going to do, walk until they found a bridge to stay under....

[305/LT1]

You are in complete denial if you do not think the black community as a whole doesn't have MAJOR issues to face.


I understand you are black and feel an obligation to defend your people... which is fine and good.

I have caught you blaming the white man on a few occasions. You believe the reason I am successful is because I am white. You believe the reason you were fired from Coweta county Sheriff's department is because you were black.

LOLOLOL!!!!! Not really........ I believe the reason you have what you do is because you spent your teen years on a computer and learned it inside out despite not finishing high school. I loss my job at the county because I was not trained to work in a jail, I was trained as a police officer so dont try that shit! It had nothing to do with me being black.

[Thacker Returns]

Who the fuck are you talking to? What part of they dont have any where to go dont you understand? These people were not rich or well off, they lived pay check to pay check! They had no choice but to try to ride it out!! The fuck were they going to do, walk until they found a bridge to stay under....

A hurricane doesn't last more than a few days. The ENSURE they didn't DIE they could have drove out of state, and stayed in a hotel for 3-4 nights. Maximum cost 600 dollars.

Most people have credit cards with more than a 500$ limit.

Most people own a car capable of getting them that far.

Most COMMUNITIES are willing to help each other, unlike the BLACK mayor of that city that refused to take people out of the city using the buses that were available.

You act like they were forced to stay there. In order to SURVIVE they could have left. They wouldn't have had anything to come home to... no... but they'd have been alive.

[305/LT1]

It seems 305 LT1 is getting his information about Katrina from the same sources he gets his George Bush info......

LOL.. claiming our government told people to stay in their homes. LMAO.

Dude, think about what your saying.
There was an evacuation ORDER given over 48 hours before Katrina even got close to the shore.

If you think I said that the government told them to stay in their homes then you need to turn off the keyboard. They were told to stay in the city after the storm flooded the area. Stay and wait for help is what I was saying.

[Thacker Returns]

If you think I said that the government told them to stay in their homes then you need to turn off the keyboard. They were told to stay in the city after the storm flooded the area. Stay and wait for help is what I was saying.

Read my other thread I posted, where GOOD black leaders blame black culture for the mishaps.

[305/LT1]

A hurricane doesn't last more than a few days. The ENSURE they didn't DIE they could have drove out of state, and stayed in a hotel for 3-4 nights. Maximum cost 600 dollars.

Most people have credit cards with more than a 500$ limit.

Most people own a car capable of getting them that far.

Most COMMUNITIES are willing to help each other, unlike the BLACK mayor of that city that refused to take people out of the city using the buses that were available.

You act like they were forced to stay there. In order to SURVIVE they could have left. They wouldn't have had anything to come home to... no... but they'd have been alive.

The ones that could have left did! Again these people were poor and had no credit cards and hotel money! So they stayed!!!!

[305/LT1]

It seems 305 LT1 is getting his information about Katrina from the same sources he gets his George Bush info......

LOL.. claiming our government told people to stay in their homes. LMAO.

Dude, think about what your saying.
There was an evacuation ORDER given over 48 hours before Katrina even got close to the shore.

I didnt get any info off of the net. Maybe if you talked to a black person that is from new orleans instead of thinking they are going to steal your rims or rob you then you would be able to hear the shit from the horses mouth.

[Thacker Returns]

I didnt get any info off of the net. Maybe if you talked to a black person that is from new orleans instead of thinking they are going to steal your rims or rob you then you would be able to hear the shit from the horses mouth.

Read my other thread. :fro:

[305/LT1]

So that makes it OK to break the law and stay after an evacuation order is put into effect. Saying that they didn't know the levees would break is bullshit, why do you think they evacuated the city. If these people weren't smart enough to figure out that if there is an evacuation order the levees are in danger then maybe they learned a valuable lesson and won't be so stupid next time. Oh wait ,what am I thinking, they didn't take responsability for it they turned around and blamed other people for their problems. Oh well, we can dream. Personally I don't give a shit what ahppened tothe people that stayed in New Orleans. I know that sounds cold, but I believe they did it to themselves. The people that died in the hospitals and old folks homes, that does bother me. The owners of these facilities should have taken care of them.


We are getting off point here, the thread was point out the difference between the people of New Orleans (blaming everyone else for their problems) and the people of the mid-west (not blaming everyone else and getting things done). Pure and simple I haven't seen one news-cast with a person (white or black) sitting there bitching that FEMA hasn't givin them their cards yet, or bitching that the trailer aren't good enough (or safe enough). I haven't seen one person (once again white or black) blaming the government for the levees breaking.

As for the people of the Tsunami, the had NO warning and weren't put in harms way by their own desicion to stay in an area after it was evacuated. Sorry but compare apples to apples. Pure and simple if the people of New Orleans had evacuated they wouldn't have been in the trouble they were in, and to sit there and say that "They had nowhere to go" is total and complete bullshit. The order was in efffect and they dis-obeyed or ignored it.

First i am saying that the day after the Tsunami our government ran over there to help fuckers in another country but it took them a week to help the U.S. citizens in N.O. Alabama and Mississippi!! What about this shit in Myanmar? We ran over there to, the fuckers didnt even want our help! Yea the people of New Orleans learned a lesson and it wont happen to them again, considering they dont fucking live there anymore!!!! Over 2,000 people died, but no one gives a fuck.:fro:

[305/LT1]

Read my other thread. :fro:

That's one person. So what their are problems in the black community, what the fuck does that have to do with over 2,000 people dieing in Katrina??

[Thacker Returns]

That's one person. So what their are problems in the black community, what the fuck does that have to do with over 2,000 people dieing in Katrina??

Too dumb to leave.

very easy to explain.

[305/LT1]

Too dumb to leave.

very easy to explain.

Once again for the 85th time, where were people with no money and no other form of shelter going to go?

[Thacker Returns]

If people can't come up with 500 bucks to save their own lives they have some major issues dude.

Even you, at 9.50 an hour can afford to get the fuck out of the state for a few days if you had to.

[bigtyre187]

If people can't come up with 500 bucks to save their own lives they have some major issues dude.

Even you, at 9.50 an hour can afford to get the fuck out of the state for a few days if you had to.

THACKER you dont even have $5.00 to fix ur wrecked ragged camaro

[ProStreetZ28]

Yea do like you allways do and blame the black community for everything! They didnt have 500 extra bucks to pull out of their ass and go find a hotel! 9/11 didnt have a mostly black victim scale either..... It was a very different situation.

Nothing personal, but it's not my problem that they don't have enough money to get a hotel room It doesn't mean that the government has to step in and give them debit cards, trailers & free hotel rooms. I work for a living, and work my ass off, and I make sure that in the event of an emergency I can take care of my family. Not becasue it makes me more of a man, but becasue I care for my family and I want the best for them.
You just proved the point they were making by arguing that the victims of 9/11 were mostly white. And you're right it was a different situation, because generally speaking when it happens to a majority white population they don't sit there and bitch that nothing is being done for them, they get out and take care of it for themselves, so YES I agree with your point. After Andrew we all went out and cut trees and moved debris so that the power trucks could get through wwe all got together and stacked branches and debris in piles on the side of the street to be picked up, before our houses were even able to be lived in. WHY? Was it becasue we were told to or because the government wouldn't do it? NO, it was because we were a community and we all looked out for one another. We all took turns watching over the nieghborhood watching for looters, we didn't all band together and loot the entire city, WHY???? If you can answer these questions truthfully then you'll understand the differences between our cultures. If you can't see the truth then there is no hope for you.

[ProStreetZ28]

First i am saying that the day after the Tsunami our government ran over there to help fuckers in another country but it took them a week to help the U.S. citizens in N.O. Alabama and Mississippi!! What about this shit in Myanmar? We ran over there to, the fuckers didnt even want our help! Yea the people of New Orleans learned a lesson and it wont happen to them again, considering they dont fucking live there anymore!!!! Over 2,000 people died, but no one gives a fuck.:fro:

Once again you can't face the truth so you run off on a tangent, what does any of that bullshit have to do with the difference between the way the people fo New Orleans acted after Katrina and the way the people of the midwest are acting after the floods there? Stick to the topic.
Personally I know there are problems with the way we treat other countries, but I'm more pssed about sending BILLIONS of dollars to the fucking animals in Africa, but that's just my opinion.

[ProStreetZ28]

That's one person. So what their are problems in the black community, what the fuck does that have to do with over 2,000 people dieing in Katrina??
If they could be taught to follow rules (and be productive members of society) the death toll would have been much lower, but instead they choose to stay and more of them died. I hate being a dick, but they are like little children if you keep doing everything for them they will never learn to be productive members of society. They will always blame someone else for the problems in their life's. You can call it racist, but the fact of the matter is I don't care if they're white, black, red or purple, if they're a burden to society then they aren't worth me being concerned about. Put simply, if they won't help themselves I'm not going to. Now with that said I'll repeat what I said before, I do feel bad for the people that were in the hospitals and retirement homes that were just left to die, that disgusts me. The people that left them there to die should be brought up on charges, hopefully they were.

[ProStreetZ28]

A hurricane doesn't last more than a few days. The ENSURE they didn't DIE they could have drove out of state, and stayed in a hotel for 3-4 nights. Maximum cost 600 dollars.

Most people have credit cards with more than a 500$ limit.

Most people own a car capable of getting them that far.

Most COMMUNITIES are willing to help each other, unlike the BLACK mayor of that city that refused to take people out of the city using the buses that were available.

You act like they were forced to stay there. In order to SURVIVE they could have left. They wouldn't have had anything to come home to... no... but they'd have been alive.

There are plenty fo cheap hotell rooms heading towards Texas on I-10, been there done that, and if they couldn't afford to stay in a hotel/motel then they should have slept in their cars outside of the danger area. Plenty fo people did that. The fact is, it was easier for them to stay, just like it was easier to blame everyone else afterwards, PERIOD. And if they didn't have an extra $50-$100 to get out fo town then they need to strive to make more money and quit being deadbeats.

[305/LT1]

Nothing personal, but it's not my problem that they don't have enough money to get a hotel room It doesn't mean that the government has to step in and give them debit cards, trailers & free hotel rooms. I work for a living, and work my ass off, and I make sure that in the event of an emergency I can take care of my family. Not becasue it makes me more of a man, but becasue I care for my family and I want the best for them.
You just proved the point they were making by arguing that the victims of 9/11 were mostly white. And you're right it was a different situation, because generally speaking when it happens to a majority white population they don't sit there and bitch that nothing is being done for them, they get out and take care of it for themselves, so YES I agree with your point. After Andrew we all went out and cut trees and moved debris so that the power trucks could get through wwe all got together and stacked branches and debris in piles on the side of the street to be picked up, before our houses were even able to be lived in. WHY? Was it becasue we were told to or because the government wouldn't do it? NO, it was because we were a community and we all looked out for one another. We all took turns watching over the nieghborhood watching for looters, we didn't all band together and loot the entire city, WHY???? If you can answer these questions truthfully then you'll understand the differences between our cultures. If you can't see the truth then there is no hope for you.

In the world trade attacks there was already help there and it continued until the rescue efforts were over. They didnt have to wait a whole week for aid to arrive. I guess there is no hope for me because I mainly saw people taking bread and bottle waters so they would not die from dehydration. Some took clothes and shoes, so what? It was ruined any way......

[ProStreetZ28]

In the world trade attacks there was already help there and it continued until the rescue efforts were over. They didnt have to wait a whole week for aid to arrive. I guess there is no hope for me because I mainly saw people taking bread and bottle waters so they would not die from dehydration. Some took clothes and shoes, so what? It was ruined any way......
Once again, you refuse to see that they remained in New Orleans against the law, against an evacuation order. They were told to leave BEFORE the strom, if they stayed them whatever happend to them is their own problem, not mine.

[305/LT1]

Once again you can't face the truth so you run off on a tangent, what does any of that bullshit have to do with the difference between the way the people fo New Orleans acted after Katrina and the way the people of the midwest are acting after the floods there? Stick to the topic.
Personally I know there are problems with the way we treat other countries, but I'm more pssed about sending BILLIONS of dollars to the fucking animals in Africa, but that's just my opinion.

My point is the death toll in the mid west comes no where close to Katrina. This shit cant even compare to Katrina! Let's be real on this subject. Let them fuckers sit in the middle of the floods for a week with no aid and see if they bitch!! Trap them in a city under 18 feet of water and see if they dont call on the federal organizations for help!

[305/LT1]

Once again, you refuse to see that they remained in New Orleans against the law, against an evacuation order. They were told to leave BEFORE the strom, if they stayed them whatever happend to them is their own problem, not mine.

Who said it was your problem? You took it upon your self to make it your problem so you could complain about it and call them savages and animals.

[Thacker Returns]

The death toll of Katrina would have been much less if they had just listened.

End of story.

It was a hurricane for gods sake. It gave ample warning.

[Bugman]

Once again for the 85th time, where were people with no money and no other form of shelter going to go?

In that video it showed plenty of vehicles parked. Why were they still there?

I am not sure where they are getting that $500-$600 for a hotel room and gas but I will tell you that I have slept in the back of a car before and if it meant the safety of my family I'd do it again for weeks if need be. Ya know what, I'd bet everything I own that they would not have one complaint about it. We would make the best of it and deal with it knowing that it meant we were safe, together and ready for another journey.

[305/LT1]

In that video it showed plenty of vehicles parked. Why were they still there?

I am not sure where they are getting that $500-$600 for a hotel room and gas but I will tell you that I have slept in the back of a car before and if it meant the safety of my family I'd do it again for weeks if need be. Ya know what, I'd bet everything I own that they would not have one complaint about it. We would make the best of it and deal with it knowing that it meant we were safe, together and ready for another journey.

Those cars more than likely didnt belong to them.

[ProStreetZ28]

My point is the death toll in the mid west comes no where close to Katrina. This shit cant even compare to Katrina! Let's be real on this subject. Let them fuckers sit in the middle of the floods for a week with no aid and see if they bitch!! Trap them in a city under 18 feet of water and see if they dont call on the federal organizations for help!

First off no one compared the death toll from the two events, it mearly pointed out the difference in the way people acted after & during the two events. YOU are the one that brought up the dath toll from Katrina:
WOW! Another racist thread..................

Funny how no one has talked about the 2,000 people who died in Katrina!!
Oh, im sorry, The mid west is not under 20 feet of standing water. Carry on....
Second they have been under water for over a week, and still not cryin that they are being mistreated, second your right the death toll is lower. WHY? Becasue the people there obeyed the law and evacuated when they were told to? The ONLY reason the people of New Orleans were trapped in a city with 18 feet of water is because they CHOOSE to stay there. I fail to believe that they were hated by there neighbors so much that they wouldn't have brought them with when they left, I fail to believe that they don't have an family or friends that would have helped them in a life or death situation. So remember you brought the whole death toll thing into this topic, NOT ME. If you don't like what I'm saying about it, sorry, you shouldn't have brought it up.

[ProStreetZ28]

Who said it was your problem? You took it upon your self to make it your problem so you could complain about it and call them savages and animals.

You did, in the fact that you are arguing the point for them, you are trying to get me to feel compassion for them. In other words making my problem. By bringing up the death toll on the first page you opend this conversation to my feelings on this subject, and like I said before I don't care if they are white, black, red or purple if they are a burden to society then they aren't worth me being concerned about.

[305/LT1]

First off no one compared the death toll from the two events, it mearly pointed out the difference in the way people acted after & during the two events. YOU are the one that brought up the dath toll from Katrina:

Second they have been under water for over a week, and still not cryin that they are being mistreated, second your right the death toll is lower. WHY? Becasue the people there obeyed the law and evacuated when they were told to? The ONLY reason the people of New Orleans were trapped in a city with 18 feet of water is because they CHOOSE to stay there. I fail to believe that they were hated by there neighbors so much that they wouldn't have brought them with when they left, I fail to believe that they don't have an family or friends that would have helped them in a life or death situation. So remember you brought the whole death toll thing into this topic, NOT ME. If you don't like what I'm saying about it, sorry, you shouldn't have brought it up.

I dont care what you say. You have your opinion and I have mine:nod:

[ProStreetZ28]

Those cars more than likely didnt belong to them.

It didn't stop them from looting everythign else in the city, did it?????????????????

[2FNQUIK]

First of all how many of you are from New Orleans, have ever been there, or have any family or friends that lived there all if not most of there lives. For you to calll someone a complete MORON for not leaving the only thing that they as home is pretty cowardly(try saying that to someone who was affected and see how they react). Many of you can only speak on what was told to you all through the media(which we all know is very opionated and manipulated).New Orleans wasn't hit by the storm directly, not like that of Mississippi, who actually saw the eye of the storm. Our levees didn't fail, they were blown up(do your own research there is evidence to support this) in an effort to preserve downtown New Orleans(French Quarter, CBD,etc..) because without that there wouldn't have been much worth saving the city for. Countless amounts of people were left stranded for days, with no food or water or anything(how is this their fault if they had no means of leaving), for those who don't know New Orleans was a poverty striken area. Tourists came down when we had big events in the city(Mardi Gras, Jazz Fest,etc..) but didn't live there on a day to day basis, so when they came down they didn't see the real picture. If anyone has been there to see the damage first hand and see the areas that were affected it's funny how downtown is surrounded by water and wasn't flooded but the other area's(I guess they just happen to be low income and predominantly black) were under 16+ feet of water. I don't recall seeing any footage of people in Iowa on their rooftops reaching for help. What happened to us happened overnight(again, do your own research, Katrina had already passed when the levees were breeched). For those who made comments about people living in areas that are affected by hurricanes and about it being their fault, I guess those that live in tornado alley, and those that live on the west coast that deal with earthquakes or even the thousands of people killed by tsunamis it's all their fault right?!?! It's funny how I was born right here in the United States of America and was called a refugee for seeking shelter. For those of us who don't remember because it was soooo long ago(yeah right) we could not go home!!!! They shut the city down. Many people don't even know the half. It amazes me how many people can comment on a situation that they really don't know much about,but then again if I were to pre-judge people and only see things from one side of the fence because of the color of my skin then I would be equally as ignorant as some of you. I am in no way taking away from whats going on in the midwest, nor the fires on the west coast, or any other major disaster. The point of the matter is that we did not receive the same attention as everyone else and we're U.S. citizens like everyone else. For everyone that supported us and helped in any way THANK YOU for everyone else FUCK YOU VERY MUCH! Imagine going to sleep tonight and waking up in the middle of the night to find water rushing into your home faster than you think about what you are going to do next(that was reality for some people), no communication what so ever! The media would swing by to snap pictures but wouldn't drop any aid, how fucked up is that(smile for the camera starving refugee). Any looting

[305/LT1]

You did, in the fact that you are arguing the point for them, you are trying to get me to feel compassion for them. In other words making my problem. By bringing up the death toll on the first page you opend this conversation to my feelings on this subject, and like I said before I don't care if they are white, black, red or purple if they are a burden to society then they aren't worth me being concerned about.

What? I dont care what you fell about the people who died in Katrina. My point was yall were comparing the little bitty ass floods in the mid west to Katrina. Incomparable!:closed:

[ProStreetZ28]

I dont care what you say. You have your opinion and I have mine:nod:

That's what makes America great. But you still haven't answered my questions:
1. Why are the people of the midwest banding together when the people of New Orleans just sat there and bitched about everything.
2. Why did the people of New Orleans get FEMA trailers and debit cards and I had to use money from my homeowners insurance to pay for my hotel ater Andrew?

[ProStreetZ28]

What? I dont care what you fell about the people who died in Katrina. My point was yall were comparing the little bitty ass floods in the mid west to Katrina. Incomparable!:closed:
How can you say that it is incomparable when it is a flod that is (or was) covering three states? A hell of a lot more people are affected by the flood then the people of New Orleans.

[305/LT1]

It didn't stop them from looting everythign else in the city, did it?????????????????

Nope!! Sure didnt stop them from taking shit they needed to survive.

[305/LT1]

That's what makes America great. But you still haven't answered my questions:
1. Why are the people of the midwest banding together when the people of New Orleans just sat there and bitched about everything.
2. Why did the people of New Orleans get FEMA trailers and debit cards and I had to use money from my homeowners insurance to pay for my hotel ater Andrew?

Take that up with the government. Sounds like your bitching......

AND the People in the FUCKING MIDWEST ARE NOT TRAPPED IN A FUCKING CITY FOR OVER A WEEK!!!!!

[Bugman]

For you to calll someone a complete MORON for not leaving the only thing that they as home is pretty cowardly(try saying that to someone who was affected and see how they react).

I can truthfully say that if I was told that my home would be completely destroyed with or without me in it my azz would have had my family elsewhere.

With that said the rest of your post is not even valid to me. My house may have been destroyed and I may have no where to live but my family is way more important to me than any house in the world.

Call me crazy but it's true. :)

[305/LT1]

How can you say that it is incomparable when it is a flod that is (or was) covering three states? A hell of a lot more people are affected by the flood then the people of New Orleans.

The people of NEW ORLEANS!!! And Mississippi, Alabama, Florida.... Still you cant compare that shit to Katrina. NO COMPARISON!!

[Atlanta_Tider]

So the levees were blown up after Katrina passed?
Bullshit
http://www.nola.com/katrina/graphics/flashflood.swf

[305/LT1]

I can truthfully say that if I was told that my home would be completely destroyed with or without me in it my azz would have had my family elsewhere.

With that said the rest of your post is not even valid to me. My house may have been destroyed and I may have no where to live but my family is way more important to me than any house in the world.

Call me crazy but it's true. :)

You know if they would have told them that the levees would not hold then more people would have left. They were suppose to be able to ride it out but the levees broke. If they would not have broken then the death toll would have been a lot less by far!!:yup:

[ProStreetZ28]

First of all how many of you are from New Orleans, have ever been there, or have any family or friends that lived there all if not most of there lives. For you to calll someone a complete MORON for not leaving the only thing that they as home is pretty cowardly(try saying that to someone who was affected and see how they react). Many of you can only speak on what was told to you all through the media(which we all know is very opionated and manipulated).New Orleans wasn't hit by the storm directly, not like that of Mississippi, who actually saw the eye of the storm. Our levees didn't fail, they were blown up(do your own research there is evidence to support this) in an effort to preserve downtown New Orleans(French Quarter, CBD,etc..) because without that there wouldn't have been much worth saving the city for. Countless amounts of people were left stranded for days, with no food or water or anything(how is this their fault if they had no means of leaving), for those who don't know New Orleans was a poverty striken area. Tourists came down when we had big events in the city(Mardi Gras, Jazz Fest,etc..) but didn't live there on a day to day basis, so when they came down they didn't see the real picture. If anyone has been there to see the damage first hand and see the areas that were affected it's funny how downtown is surrounded by water and wasn't flooded but the other area's(I guess they just happen to be low income and predominantly black) were under 16+ feet of water. I don't recall seeing any footage of people in Iowa on their rooftops reaching for help. What happened to us happened overnight(again, do your own research, Katrina had already passed when the levees were breeched). For those who made comments about people living in areas that are affected by hurricanes and about it being their fault, I guess those that live in tornado alley, and those that live on the west coast that deal with earthquakes or even the thousands of people killed by tsunamis it's all their fault right?!?! It's funny how I was born right here in the United States of America and was called a refugee for seeking shelter. For those of us who don't remember because it was soooo long ago(yeah right) we could not go home!!!! They shut the city down. Many people don't even know the half. It amazes me how many people can comment on a situation that they really don't know much about,but then again if I were to pre-judge people and only see things from one side of the fence because of the color of my skin then I would be equally as ignorant as some of you. I am in no way taking away from whats going on in the midwest, nor the fires on the west coast, or any other major disaster. The point of the matter is that we did not receive the same attention as everyone else and we're U.S. citizens like everyone else. For everyone that supported us and helped in any way THANK YOU for everyone else FUCK YOU VERY MUCH! Imagine going to sleep tonight and waking up in the middle of the night to find water rushing into your home faster than you think about what you are going to do next(that was reality for some people), no communication what so ever! The media would swing by to snap pictures but wouldn't drop any aid, how fucked up is that(smile for the camera starving refugee). Any looting

first off, YES I've been there. If you can read you'll notice that I said that I even walked the streets and saw how far it was for most of them to get out of New Orleans.
Second YES I have quite a few friends that live just outside NEw Orleans for their whole life, not part of their life.
Third I don't give a fuck who you are, if you stay in an area that has been evacuated you are on your own. ANd in this case like I said earlier I've been there, seen the levees and I can tell you first hand you'd have to be a MORON to stay in New Orleans with a CAT 5 storm coming (even if they didn't evacuate the entire city).
You say they closed the city down, too fucking bad they evacuated t before the strorm, that's ALL there is to it.
I've been through a few storms including Andrew a CAT 5 storm and like said I made sure I was safe, these people not only didn't make sure that they were safe, but they ignored the evacuation order, so give this "OH they locked the city down" shit, you shouldn't have been there (if you were there).
As for the looting, there is NO excuse for that. Looting is stealing, it's black and white. After Andrew we didn't go through broken windows to get fre stuff. And we had NO WATER, NO ELECTRICITY and NO PHONE. But we had food and water, why becasue it was given to us by helicopters flying overhead? NO, we had food and water because we knew we needed it and got it beofre the storm. It you (or they) weren't smart enough to plan ahead then I'm sorry you're a MORON, but if you followed the evacuation oreder you wouldn't have been there in the first place, would you?

[Atlanta_Tider]

You know if they would have told them that the levees would not hold then more people would have left. ]They were suppose to be able to ride it out but the levees broke. If they would not have broken then the death toll would have been a lot less by far!!:yup:in anticipation of widespread destruction caused by Hurricane Katrina, Max Mayfield, the director of the National Hurricane Center, telephoned New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin on the night of August 27 to express his extreme concern, and on the following day, made a video call to U.S. President George W. Bush at his farm in Crawford, Texas about the severity of the storm.

With the hurricane threatening the Gulf Coast, many New Orleans residents started taking precautions to secure their homes and prepare for possible evacuation on Friday the 26th and Saturday the 27th. By mid morning on the 27th, many local gas stations which were not yet out of gas had long lines. Nagin first called for a voluntary evacuation of the city at 5:00 p.m. on August 27 and subsequently ordered a citywide mandatory evacuation at 9:30 a.m. on August 28, the first such order in the city's history. In a live news conference, Mayor Nagin predicted that, "the storm surge most likely will topple our levee system", and warned that oil production in the Gulf of Mexico would be shut down.[10] President Bush made a televised appeal for residents to heed the evacuation orders, warning, "We cannot stress enough the danger this hurricane poses to Gulf Coast communities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_Hurricane_Katrina_on_New_Orleans

[ProStreetZ28]

Our levees didn't fail, they were blown up(do your own research there is evidence to support this) in an effort to preserve downtown New Orleans(French Quarter, CBD,etc..) because without that there wouldn't have been much worth saving the city for.

I'm sorry let me correct my statement, you are a "FUCKING MORON"!

That is the dumbest statement I have ever heard, I sppose you think the moon landing was a fake also.

Go smoke another fucking joint you moron.

[ProStreetZ28]

The people of NEW ORLEANS!!! And Mississippi, Alabama, Florida.... Still you cant compare that shit to Katrina. NO COMPARISON!!
Yes, but the people of Mississippi, Alabama & Florida aren't crying about the way they were treated. Oh yeah and the people of Missisppi obeyed the evacuation order.

[305/LT1]

in anticipation of widespread destruction caused by Hurricane Katrina, Max Mayfield, the director of the National Hurricane Center, telephoned New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin on the night of August 27 to express his extreme concern, and on the following day, made a video call to U.S. President George W. Bush at his farm in Crawford, Texas about the severity of the storm.

With the hurricane threatening the Gulf Coast, many New Orleans residents started taking precautions to secure their homes and prepare for possible evacuation on Friday the 26th and Saturday the 27th. By mid morning on the 27th, many local gas stations which were not yet out of gas had long lines. Nagin first called for a voluntary evacuation of the city at 5:00 p.m. on August 27 and subsequently ordered a citywide mandatory evacuation at 9:30 a.m. on August 28, the first such order in the city's history. In a live news conference, Mayor Nagin predicted that, "the storm surge most likely will topple our levee system", and warned that oil production in the Gulf of Mexico would be shut down.[10] President Bush made a televised appeal for residents to heed the evacuation orders, warning, "We cannot stress enough the danger this hurricane poses to Gulf Coast communities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_Hurricane_Katrina_on_New_Orleans

Notice he said topple not bust!!

[305/LT1]

Yes, but the people of Mississippi, Alabama & Florida aren't crying about the way they were treated. Oh yeah and the people of Missisppi obeyed the evacuation order.

Yes they did! And they got help faster than the people of N.O.

[ProStreetZ28]

Notice he said topple not bust!!

And what do you think happens when water topples a levee? In case you aren't smart enough to know I'll explain it. As the water rolls over the top of the levee it cuts through the earth that makes up the levee, the more that runs over the deeper the cut becomes until in completely fails. If you don't believe me spend a few minutes and look it up, or just go to the beach and build a sand castle in the surf.

[Atlanta_Tider]

Notice he said topple not bust!!

Genius.....

[ProStreetZ28]

Yes they did! And they got help faster than the people of N.O.

No they didn't. And if they got help faster it's probably becasue they followed what they were supposed to do. Like I said earlier if you (or in this case the people of New Orleans) are smart enough to follow direction, respect the law, plan ahead and take care of yourself then too bad don't be a burden on the government.

[Thacker Returns]

305... are you saying the people of New Orleans weren't helped as they should have been due to them being mostly black?

[305/LT1]

Genius.....

Your fucking right. Moron!

[305/LT1]

305... are you saying the people of New Orleans weren't helped as they should have been due to them being mostly black?

They didnt care about them fucking people! You know that and so do I. If they cared they would have had some fucking help the next day just like they do every where else in the fucking world!

[305/LT1]

And what do you think happens when water topples a levee? In case you aren't smart enough to know I'll explain it. As the water rolls over the top of the levee it cuts through the earth that makes up the levee, the more that runs over the deeper the cut becomes until in completely fails. If you don't believe me spend a few minutes and look it up, or just go to the beach and build a sand castle in the surf.

Lets be smart here, If he would had said in his address that the levees were going to BREAK then people would have acted in a different manner probably. You wont get much response when you say topple. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out............

[armyed]

I guess I have to get involved here
This is always funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVHDlPqZWE

Now when it comes to New Orleans I think everyone who stayed was an idiot(white or black) and if I had no money to my name I would have found a way to get my family out. That is no excuse to stay and then blame the government for not getting your dumb ass out as fast as you think they should have. Now not to be cold blooded but before Katrina New Orleans had the worst murder rate and crime rate in the united states, or one of the highest. That city has been filled with Parishes full of criminals for a long long time. I say fuck it..god was cleaning a little house. May sound bad to you but that place was a cesspool long before Katrina ever hit it and you cant argue with that. Now who thinks the Mayor wanting to turn the city back into a "Chocolate City". WTF does that mean huh? If someone in Iowa said we are going to turn our town back into a White Chocolate town, blacks would be up in arms! Oh well I guess the Race game will always be played and the race cards will keep being pulled out whenever something happens that they don't like. Just remember its always because your black. Have fun with this one 305 ;)

[Atlanta_Tider]

Lets be smart here, If he would had said in his address that the levees were going to BREAK then people would have acted in a different manner probably. You wont get much response when you say topple. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out............
That just proves ignorance and lack of education for you and the idiots that stayed.....

[305/LT1]

That just proves ignorance and lack of education for you and the idiots that stayed.....

What ever, Your still a moron!!:baby:

[305/LT1]

Speaking of blacks complaining what are you all doing???? White people complain just as much.

[305/LT1]

I guess I have to get involved here
This is always funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVHDlPqZWE

Now when it comes to New Orleans I think everyone who stayed was an idiot(white or black) and if I had no money to my name I would have found a way to get my family out. That is no excuse to stay and then blame the government for not getting your dumb ass out as fast as you think they should have. Now not to be cold blooded but before Katrina New Orleans had the worst murder rate and crime rate in the united states, or one of the highest. That city has been filled with Parishes full of criminals for a long long time. I say fuck it..god was cleaning a little house. May sound bad to you but that place was a cesspool long before Katrina ever hit it and you cant argue with that. Now who thinks the Mayor wanting to turn the city back into a "Chocolate City". WTF does that mean huh? If someone in Iowa said we are going to turn our town back into a White Chocolate town, blacks would be up in arms! Oh well I guess the Race game will always be played and the race cards will keep being pulled out whenever something happens that they don't like. Just remember its always because your black. Have fun with this one 305 ;)

He said it takes white and black to make chocolate meaning milk and chocolate. Lets remember that. Always because some one is black!!! Damn Nigga's

[vortech_95-gt]

Why have any of you not mentioned any thing about the Tsunami and how we rushed over to another country to help some people who dont even pay taxes here!!!!!! How quick did our federal government respond over there? But it took them a week to respond to the Katrina victims! Maybe thats why they stood in the water for a week and bitched about the federal government. If you pay taxes and a natural disaster occurs I fell the government should help you out no matter where you live!! Shit our tax dollars run this damn place!!I agree!

[vortech_95-gt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XA4ZAXIfbA

Just somthing for you to think about.........

Do you really think you could have just walked your way out of this!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQVRIpXElI0The point you are missing 305 that we are all trying to relay to you is...they didnt necessarily have to walk out of the water that you posted videos of. All they had to do was leave earlier when they were told to. The streets were clear! They decided to wait until it hit and at that point they were stranded with nothing to do but complain

[305/LT1]

Since you all with the exception of a few, want to go there with all this the people of N.O. are ignorant and idiots then I will stoop to your level and say this. The idiots who died in the world trade attacks who stood out in the streets and watched the towers sway and buckle when the police and fire fighters told them to get up the street and out of harms way and instead ignored them and continued to watch until the shit came down on top of them were ignorant and dumb ass fuck also. Only being fair. They were told to leave the area also and they didnt! They watched and died due to theri ignorance!

[armyed]

He said it takes white and black to make chocolate meaning milk and chocolate. Lets remember that. Always because some one is black!!! Damn Nigga's



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hold on lets see if you have some sense. Did he say this after the fact, after he was getting so much criticism about what he said? If he really meant that which he didn't he would have said "milk chocolate city" as that is the only one that mixes milk with it. The guy said he wanted to turn the city back into a black city..thats exactly what he meant and you know it.

[Thacker Returns]

Since you all with the exception of a few, want to go there with all this the people of N.O. are ignorant and idiots then I will stoop to your level and say this. The idiots who died in the world trade attacks who stood out in the streets and watched the towers sway and buckle when the police and fire fighters told them to get up the street and out of harms way and instead ignored them and continued to watch until the shit came down on top of them were ignorant and dumb ass fuck also. Only being fair. They were told to leave the area also and they didnt! They watched and died due to theri ignorance!

No, according to you they died because of George Bush.

Just like the Katrina victims.

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Once again, you are confusing something that gave 0 warning... to a hurricane that gave over a weeks warning.

[305/LT1]

No, according to you they died because of George Bush.

Just like the Katrina victims.

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Once again, you are confusing something that gave 0 warning... to a hurricane that gave over a weeks warning.

I didnt blame Katrina on Bush! You just want me to. Stop complaining!!!

They were told to flee up the street and they stayed and watched and died because they were stupid and ignorant just like the people in N.O. that you said were. They died so ow well fuck them to!

[ProStreetZ28]

Lets be smart here, If he would had said in his address that the levees were going to BREAK then people would have acted in a different manner probably. You wont get much response when you say topple. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out............

OMG, What do we have to do for these fucking morons to understand? Do we have to spell everything out for them, why is that the rest of the people knew exactly what was meant, and evacuated. They were told the water would topple over the levee, they were told to EVACUATE. They choose to stay. Hence, they are MORONS!
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