2006 honda civic si = reality

[kenscivic]

K20Z3 engine, 197 hp/139 lbs ft torque (under new SAE power ratings)
6-speed tranny with RSX Type-R's tochigi-fuji helical LSD and taller 6th gear to reduce cruising rpm (+ for gas mileage)
Same brakes as the RSX-S, with ABS and EBD
Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 tires 215/45-17's but apparently those are optional summer tires (yucky Pilot MXM4 is the standard tire)
2877 lb curb weight

they also say asking price is going to be around 20k $

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTA0NDc5MzZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg



now as you can see by the pictures , it still utilizes electronic power steering... one of the few things it kept from the previous model *ep* the engine looks like it sits farther back and the intake manifold is alot longer and styled differently then the type s / ep intake manifold.


and thats all i can really tell right now , cant wait till it comes to showrooms in october :gaga:

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[moocow]

I'd drive it.

Reminds me a lot of a Scion tC.

[RedZX95]

The wheels and the rear-end are hideous but the front isn't bad.

[kenscivic]

Originally posted by RedZX95
The wheels and the rear-end are hideous but the front isn't bad.

i like the wheels , but i agree , the rear reminds me of a saturn

[thrdeye]

I like it, and I think it looks good. But for someone looking to go fast, I don't see how you can justify buying an Si over a neon.

[ajk4]

yea, it looks much better than the '05 models. it looks like they tossed out the egg and replaced it with an rsx.
http://mx.news1.yimg.com/mx.img2.yahoo.com/espanol/autos/acursx5-385.jpg http://www.speedheads.de/artikelbilder/2005/HondaCivicSi2.jpg

[4DRSpeed]

Not bad, I like the interior.

My dad has an EP model, looking to sell it soon. I wish Honda kept the shifter coming out of the dash I like it there.

[BANDIT]

I like the duct tape on the wheels.

[BlazSean]

the interior is pretty badass

[Maverick7687]

Only time I will ever say this but..I like it.. It dosent look like a minivan with a shifter on the dash...:D I don't like front wheel drive and im not a fan of Honda, but for what it is, I would drive it.


Tim

[90civicHB]

The motor looks like it's gonna be a bitch to work with.....I think it's funny how much room is in the bay of my car.

[Pewter Sonoma]

I hate to say this - but I like it.

[WhiteLightningAccord]

I would hit it up the tailpipe

[JSTACIVIC]

Looks like the current 2 door Accord with TSX headlights. I showed the pics to everyone at work today and we all agree. It's gonna suck to work on. I hope the pictures are making the space look tighter than it really is.

[M.Ousley]

That's a greatl car!


















for me to poop on.

[01badz28]

Its ok, but its hard to get excited about a FWD car that only makes 197 hp/139 lbs ft torque. I guess it good gas mileage, it would a good beater in a few years after it depreciates.

[kenscivic]

Originally posted by JSTACIVIC
Looks like the current 2 door Accord with TSX headlights. I showed the pics to everyone at work today and we all agree. It's gonna suck to work on. I hope the pictures are making the space look tighter than it really is.


truly , it only looks difficult if you are going to pull out the motor , it looks like it has to drop from the bottom :(


but on the other hand ,the aftermarket turbo kits will have to be bottom mount from what it looks like so it shouldnt be to bad for aftermarket parts... but over all , it looks like some things are going to be a pain and others are going to be easy...


Originally posted by 01badz28
Its ok, but its hard to get excited about a FWD car that only makes 197 hp/139 lbs ft torque. I guess it good gas mileage, it would a good beater in a few years after it depreciates.


out of a 2.0 naturally aspirated? any other cars out there that can do that? and unlike your chevy , hondas dont take such a high hit , so wait 10 years than maybe you can get a good deal and have a nice beater :rolleyes:










and on a couple of final notes , with my ultimate guesstimation its 1/4 times should be somewhere around 14.4 - 14.6 stock and it should be on the same suspension as the 05 type s , not the ep or older type s THANK GOD! not to shabby for a 20,000$ fwd :D

[01badz28]

Originally posted by kenscivic
out of a 2.0 naturally aspirated? any other cars out there that can do that? and unlike your chevy , hondas dont take such a high hit , so wait 10 years than maybe you can get a good deal and have a nice beater :rolleyes:

Ohh, ricer math. My BMW gets 195hp out of 2.3 liters, who gives a crap either way? Cars depreciate, no matter what you buy. I didn't buy my Camaro so I could re-sell it for a profit - but I wish you luck reselling that rare civic.

Christ, you Honda guys can really get your panties in a wad over these things, can't you.

[CMS-GT4]

Originally posted by kenscivic
out of a 2.0 naturally aspirated? any other cars out there that can do that? and unlike your chevy , hondas dont take such a high hit , so wait 10 years than maybe you can get a good deal and have a nice beater :rolleyes:


The Altezza and Mr2 N/A 2.0L 3sge made 210 and close to the same in tq. Oh and don't forget the s2000. :D

[kenscivic]

Originally posted by 01badz28
Ohh, ricer math. My BMW gets 195hp out of 2.3 liters, who gives a crap either way? Cars depreciate, no matter what you buy. I didn't buy my Camaro so I could re-sell it for a profit - but I wish you luck reselling that rare civic.

Christ, you Honda guys can really get your panties in a wad over these things, can't you.


lol i never got angry , but its obvious you got sand in your vagina tonight :D


Originally posted by CMS-GT4
The Altezza and Mr2 N/A 2.0L 3sge made 210 and close to the same in tq. Oh and don't forget the s2000. :D


now your talking mr2 mumbo jumbo so ill have to take your word on that ;)

[90civicHB]

Originally posted by CMS-GT4
The Altezza and Mr2 N/A 2.0L 3sge made 210 and close to the same in tq. Oh and don't forget the s2000. :D


The S2000 made 240hp with 2.0L of displacement, yes, but my motor has more torque then it does. The 04's and up are much better...It's a 2.2, and the gearing is a lot better, but it doesn't have the 9000rpm redline anymore.

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
The S2000 made 240hp with 2.0L of displacement, yes, but my motor has more torque then it does. The 04's and up are much better...It's a 2.2, and the gearing is a lot better, but it doesn't have the 9000rpm redline anymore. Please don't speak on things you have no idea what you're talking about, please.

[andy00steeda]

Atleast the moved the shifter off the damn dash.

[90civicHB]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
Please don't speak on things you have no idea what you're talking about, please.

Thats what I got from Car and Driver:why:

[kenscivic]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
Thats what I got from Car and Driver:why:


its alright you are right ;) tony only knows about mustangs and talking shit on the internet :burnout:

[90civicHB]

Originally posted by kenscivic
its alright you are right ;) tony only knows about mustangs and talking shit on the internet :burnout:

Ken, you are my E-Hero!

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
Thats what I got from Car and Driver:why: Well, if a reliable source as Car and Driver said it, then I can believe it. I guess thats why all the 2.0 S2000 guys are selling theirs like hot cakes and picking up the 2.2 S2000's. :rolleyes:

[not cbring]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
Well, if a reliable source as Car and Driver said it, then I can believe it. I guess thats why all the 2.0 S2000 guys are selling theirs like hot cakes and picking up the 2.2 S2000's. :rolleyes:

Did you sell your car and buy an '05 Mustang?

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by not cbring
Did you sell your car and buy an '05 Mustang? Of course I did, C&D said it was better.

[CMS-GT4]

My understanding is that the new s2000 ratios are taller, which makes it keep about the same acceleration performance as the later, even with the more hp on the new engine.

I have a feeling that the previous s2000 box is what is going into the 6speed solstice.

[90civicHB]

Originally posted by CMS-GT4
My understanding is that the new s2000 ratios are taller, which makes it keep about the same acceleration performance as the later, even with the more hp on the new engine.

I have a feeling that the previous s2000 box is what is going into the 6speed solstice.

Same HP, more torque. And I'm not sure how the gearing is better? Thats just what I had read.

Well, if a reliable source as Car and Driver said it, then I can believe it. I guess thats why all the 2.0 S2000 guys are selling theirs like hot cakes and picking up the 2.2 S2000's.

I just said that they are better, kinda like the cobra compared to the GT, but I don't see you going out and buying a cobra, but I know it has more power, better gearing, and other stuff, the cobra that is.

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
I just said that they are better, kinda like the cobra compared to the GT, but I don't see you going out and buying a cobra, but I know it has more power, better gearing, and other stuff, the cobra that is. apples and oranges....apples and oranges. :rolleyes: Don't believe everything you read.

[90civicHB]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
apples and oranges....apples and oranges. :rolleyes: Don't believe everything you read.

What do you mean? How is that apples and oranges? Thats like green apples to the red apples. They are differnt, yet they are still the same...I didn't compair a roush/saleen/shelby to a GT, so I don't understand where you were going with your comment.

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
..I didn't compair a roush/saleen/shelby to a GT, so I don't understand where you were going with your comment. How funny. Comparing a Rouch/Saleen mustang to a Mustang GT is pretty easy. One is a regular GT, and the other two are GT's with bodykits and wheels(basically).

The reason the new S2K's are not BETTER than the old ones are due to political correctness. The first S2000's have the higher spring rates, and while they don't have balls on the bottom end, the higher RPM limit allows them more time in their power band which is where the car should stay. The new ones have a softer suspension, less RPM's and gain only minimal low end torque over the previous model.

i understand these things can be changed, but for someone wanting to run a STOCK class in autox, the 1st gen. S2000's are still the choice.

[kenscivic]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
What do you mean? How is that apples and oranges? Thats like green apples to the red apples. They are differnt, yet they are still the same...I didn't compair a roush/saleen/shelby to a GT, so I don't understand where you were going with your comment.


isnt the cobra dohc and all that good shit while the gt is sohc ...


not to fair to compare the two ... and im really not sure how we jumped subjects , i guess in tennessee , everything ends up about mustangs :bash:

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by kenscivic
... and im really not sure how we jumped subjects , i guess in tennessee , everything ends up about mustangs :bash:

I would consider this an UPGRADE to your thread. Hopefully once people get past the gay pix on the first page, they'll be OK.

[90civicHB]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
How funny. Comparing a Rouch/Saleen mustang to a Mustang GT is pretty easy. One is a regular GT, and the other two are GT's with bodykits and wheels(basically).

The reason the new S2K's are not BETTER than the old ones are due to political correctness. The first S2000's have the higher spring rates, and while they don't have balls on the bottom end, the higher RPM limit allows them more time in their power band which is where the car should stay. The new ones have a softer suspension, less RPM's and gain only minimal low end torque over the previous model.

i understand these things can be changed, but for someone wanting to run a STOCK class in autox, the 1st gen. S2000's are still the choice.

Look how anwsome that post was. Thats all you had to say. That was probly one of the best TB posts of the year!


I was talking about the older saleen...Like the 351's. I would kill a man to get one or like a 93 cobra.

[not cbring]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
i understand these things can be changed, but for someone wanting to run a STOCK class in autox, the 1st gen. S2000's are still the choice.

I don't think it is that cut and dry. Most people choose to run the 00-03's because they already had one or because they are cheaper than a brand new one (or you can already buy one prepped for autocross). The 04+ cars are plenty fast, too.

[kenscivic]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
I would consider this an UPGRADE to your thread. Hopefully once people get past the gay pix on the first page, they'll be OK.


i guess mustangs are SOOO much nicer..


their interior :rolleyes: exterior is soo much better too :rolleyes:



the wheels are off the hizzook too !!!


everytime i see my brothers mustang i wonder , they had such a good start *motor , rwd* how could they fuck up the rest sooooo bad


the mustang needs to join the pinto , never to be made again

[moocow]

Originally posted by kenscivic
everytime i see my brothers mustang i wonder , they had such a good start *motor , rwd* how could they fuck up the rest sooooo bad


the mustang needs to join the pinto , never to be made again
I'm waiting for you to make a post that makes sense.

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by moocow
I'm waiting for you to make a post that makes sense. Exactly. All this derogotory(sp?)language towards a Mustang, coming from the guy that drives a lowered Honda Odyssey Van.

And comparing the lines of a Mustang, to a Pinto(coming from a guy who drives a car with VERY, VERY similiar lines to a Pinto/Gremlin)is like comparing your car to an Indy car.

[andy00steeda]

Originally posted by kenscivic
i guess mustangs are SOOO much nicer..


their interior :rolleyes: exterior is soo much better too :rolleyes:



the wheels are off the hizzook too !!!


everytime i see my brothers mustang i wonder , they had such a good start *motor , rwd* how could they fuck up the rest sooooo bad


the mustang needs to join the pinto , never to be made again

I have come to the assumption that your a jackass by association with the above comment you posted.

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by andy00steeda
I have come to the assumption that your a jackass by association with the above comment you posted.
;)

http://www.amazingsyco.com/funny/Misc-CaptainObvious.gif

:nod:

[not cbring]

y'all gotta get it crunk and drop dem boz, drop dem boz

[KnoxSe7eN]

It seems kinda heavy for a fwd.

[moocow]

Originally posted by KnoxSe7eN
It seems kinda heavy for a fwd.
:confused: Maybe you meant to say, "heavy for a Honda." :) It's actually not too bad for a new car, considering all the random bullshit they have to tack on nowadays (18 airbags, heated e-brakes, etc).

If you wanna see a heavy FWD, the new eclipse is a hair short of 3600 lbs. :angel:

[moocow]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
The S2000 made 240hp with 2.0L of displacement, yes, but my motor has more torque then it does.
The 2000 Civic Si is rated at 111 ft-lbs of torque. The 2003 S2000 is rated at 153 ft-lbs. You need to learn to count. ^_^

[90civicHB]

Originally posted by moocow
The 2000 Civic Si is rated at 111 ft-lbs of torque. The 2003 S2000 is rated at 153 ft-lbs. You need to learn to count. ^_^

The point of my post was me hinting at the fact that it has very little toque. And this shit ^_^ is fucking gay!

[moocow]

Originally posted by 90civicHB
The point of my post was me hinting at the fact that it has very little toque. And this shit ^_^ is fucking gay!
What are you talking about? =^-^= @_@ O_o *_*

[KnoxSe7eN]

Originally posted by moocow
:confused: Maybe you meant to say, "heavy for a Honda." new eclipse is a hair short of 3600 lbs. :angel: Sorry I really have not looked into new fwd drive cars that much. I was always told they were light. :eek: Good lord I had know idea the eclipse was that heavy.

[kenscivic]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
Exactly. All this derogotory(sp?)language towards a Mustang, coming from the guy that drives a lowered Honda Odyssey Van.

And comparing the lines of a Mustang, to a Pinto(coming from a guy who drives a car with VERY, VERY similiar lines to a Pinto/Gremlin)is like comparing your car to an Indy car.


sorry not lowered dipshit ;)


Originally posted by andy00steeda
I have come to the assumption that your a jackass by association with the above comment you posted.

and you must be the one that grooms tonys nutsack hair ??

Originally posted by not cbring
y'all gotta get it crunk and drop dem boz, drop dem boz


:D

Originally posted by KnoxSe7eN
It seems kinda heavy for a fwd.

mr. cow already pointed out that it isnt so bad these days ;)


Originally posted by moocow
I'm waiting for you to make a post that makes sense.


and my favorite post . i tend to make a little sence every once in a while. but it seems all you do is say "worst thread ever" or "your stupid" to everybodys... so really , who makes more sence?


*edit*

on a final note , this really is the worst car forum... all you have is a bunch of adults who in person are nice but have to bitch and talk shit on the internet....... guarenteed , the worst thing that would ever be said to me in person is * it looks like a focus * or *it looks like a mini van*


Heck , even when the great bolton who talked sooo much shit to me , met me ... all he asked was about my wreck and went on his way....



oh yah this is not to cobra boy , or not cbring , sorry i dont remember your alls names but you all and a couple others are by far are the only decent people all the way around on this board..


the only thing knowledge wise i've gotten off this board is civics will always be slow and the whole rpm X torque / 5252 or what not

and now go ahead and talk shit or whatever , because i am probably never going to meet any of you or see any of you again. *runs to the closet crying like a little girl ;) *

[KnoxSe7eN]

Originally posted by kenscivic
mr. cow already pointed out that it isnt so bad these days ;) Like I said I didnt know. I like to think of myself as nice on this forum and in person. Any thing I would say on the forum I would say in person as well.

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by kenscivic
on a final note , this really is the worst car forum... all you have is a bunch of adults who in person are nice but have to bitch and talk shit on the internet....... guarenteed , the worst thing that would ever be said to me in person is * it looks like a focus * or *it looks like a mini van*

Heck , even when the great bolton who talked sooo much shit to me , met me ... all he asked was about my wreck and went on his way....


the only thing knowledge wise i've gotten off this board is civics will always be slow and the whole rpm X torque / 5252 or what not

Well, for one, when you see us/me in person, you're probably not trying to ram your he-love of the EP Civic down our throats, or the vastly superior K-series shitblocks all mighty glory up our ass.

Generally when I see someone out, it is because I am the place for a reason. To race, to autox, or to eat. I don't care what someone has to say about some random shit, I am there for a reason. I dare say that alota people are in agreance with me when I say, "I'd rather not talk about internet bullshit when I'm out trying to have a good time."

Just because you think the worlds greatest car is a FWD "Honda's bottom of the line" entry vehicle, CIVIC is soo awesome, doesn't mean we do. And just because I own a Mustang does not mean that I think it is the greatest car in the world. You don't/didn't see me posting pictures/specs of the 05 GT's because, basically I couldn't care less what it has. You all have access to dealership brochures, they're free, go pick you up one.

[BolognaPony]

It weighs just under what my CL does and makes about 33% more power.

I'll just add a 50shot and run the same times as a new civic SI for 1/3 the cost total. :why:


Or i just wont modify a honda because, in the end (hell anytime), its just not worth doing. ;)

[01badz28]

Originally posted by kenscivic
lol i never got angry , but its obvious you got sand in your vagina tonight :D

Not quite, just like I said 197 hp in a FWD doen't interest me, but it amuses me that you guys are creaming your pants over it :D I'd rather take a 5 year old Crapmaro or Rustang, spend less and go faster, but thats just my opinion.

I'll be curious as to what it can do in the corners.

[BKdaMoRoN]

Another 15-second shitbox. I know I can't wait.

[Eclipse97]

^^^ 2nd'ed

[jerome]

Originally posted by reds13fastback
It weighs just under what my CL does and makes about 33% more power.

I'll just add a 50shot and run the same times as a new civic SI for 1/3 the cost total. :why:


Or i just wont modify a honda because, in the end (hell anytime), its just not worth doing. ;)

That would be like me telling you the rx7 is superior to a C5 because I can get in the 7s with a total of 10k invested and I challenge you to do that in a C5.

Damn you Red

:bash:

Stop comparing new car prices to 8 yr old "luxury" hondas;)

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by jerome
Stop comparing new car prices to 8 yr old "luxury" hondas;) :rofl: But it's such an equal compar-o!!! :)

[BolognaPony]

Oh silly me.

I didnt know comparing an RX7 to a C5 was more apples to apples than a honda to honda. :rolleyes:

[TonyBolton]

Originally posted by reds13fastback
I didnt know comparing an RX7 to a C5 was more apples to apples than a honda to honda. :rolleyes: They only made the FD for 3 years, and the newest Corvette is 10 years newer than the newest FD.

That is completely the Corvettes fault for being built in plentiful numbers and continually since it's introduction(minus the 1983 hiatus :( )

[unwrecked]

The only thing I have to say on the matter is that the 06 looks 100% better than the 03-05 models IMHO.
And as far as comparing cars, there are too many aspects to consider when comparing them. Red, you may say, "I'll put a 50 shot on the CL", but then you still have an old honda with the accord single cam motor. Some people buy new cars not to drag race them, but to drive them w/o having to worry about the maintenance issue. Its not always about how fast you get there, its about having fun along the way.

[jerome]

Originally posted by TonyBolton
They only made the FD for 3 years, and the newest Corvette is 10 years newer than the newest FD.

That is completely the Corvettes fault for being built in plentiful numbers and continually since it's introduction(minus the 1983 hiatus :( )

Fine then you fucking moron. Compare a C5 to a C6. Do you have any fucking reasoning skills or logic in your brain:confused:

You cant compare a car that has been on the market for 8 yrs to a new car. Just doesnt make sense:bash:

[TonyBolton]

Hey, don't be pissed cuz' your car sucks. In order for some cars to be great, some hafta sucks. ;)

[RedZX95]

Originally posted by unwrecked
Its not always about how fast you get there, its about having fun along the way.
Holy crap - I agree on this one.

This is why I have a 240ish HP N/A 300ZX and not buying the SC'd Cobra in Knox like I was seriously considering. I am going out and spending $6K on furniture for my apartment instead, much better investment IMHO.

[jerome]

Originally posted by RedZX95
I am going out and spending $6K on furniture for my apartment instead, much better investment IMHO.

:eek:

Pull your head out from between her legs. ;) Buy an expensive car. It is always a great investment:)

[RedZX95]

Originally posted by jerome
:eek:

Pull your head out from between her legs. ;) Buy an expensive car. It is always a great investment:)
I'm buying it WITH her so HA!!!!!!!!

[jerome]

Originally posted by RedZX95
I'm buying it WITH her so HA!!!!!!!!

Just remember when yall split up she gets everything yall bought together and half of everything you came into the relationship with. Well if you get married;)

[RedZX95]

Originally posted by jerome
Just remember when yall split up she gets everything yall bought together and half of everything you came into the relationship with. Well if you get married;)
Thanks for the words of encouragement buddy. :D

[jerome]

Originally posted by RedZX95
Thanks for the words of encouragement buddy. :D

Just looking out for ya;)