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BTTWRACING86T
10-08-2003, 08:31 PM
ok how many guys on the forum have a mustang?

BeScurred
10-08-2003, 10:44 PM
can't you count?

mustang23LX
10-08-2003, 10:46 PM
what if we personally have more than one car? :D

WNA-LOSE
10-08-2003, 11:03 PM
Who cares!

57fairlane
10-08-2003, 11:33 PM
what is the question barry? geez SPSU great job

mustang23LX
10-08-2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by 57fairlane
what is the question barry? geez SPSU great job
well obviously i understand that it doesn't change the reality that i do indeed have a mustang, but i'm alluding to the fact that there should be more options in the poll as one of our cars in particular may not be our sole interest as far as the hobby is concerned.

57fairlane
10-08-2003, 11:40 PM
man I cant believe that . . .

mustang23LX
10-08-2003, 11:44 PM
additionally, what if i owned a 94 v6 mustang but my interest in the hobby was my turbo 996 porsche. then the poll doesn't accurately reflect what it was intended to show. now you have someone else up there that does infact have a mustang, but so what?? it isn't their car of interest. are you following me yet? :D

basically, i know where he is going with the poll and his 2 black and white choices won't clearly reflect a true answer.
i'm unquestionably brilliant, never second guess me again :bash:. if i ask something, although it may not seem relevant to you, and your mind may not be able to grasp the concept just yet, rest assured that there is a reason.
:rofl: ;)

57fairlane
10-08-2003, 11:57 PM
the poll doesnt care what other cars you may possess.
And on the mental comprehension, I second guess your ability to comprehend a simple question. :bash: :D :D

mustang23LX
10-08-2003, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by 57fairlane
And on the mental comprehension, I second guess your ability to comprehend a simple question. :bash: :D :D
see, that's what you get for going to KSU. you must delve deeper than the obvious and "simple question." you answer it best by looking to the likely reason it was asked...

57fairlane
10-09-2003, 12:03 AM
thanks Nietzsche I will remember to save that for my huge goal in life to work at a street rod shop. KSU ha! hope scholarship is fading fast at that. Oh and to further back it up, tell me which option on the post is "Hey I go to SPSU and I think I am really smart by confusing first year kids by talking about nothing"?

mustang23LX
10-09-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by 57fairlane
"Hey I go to SPSU and I think I am really smart by confusing first year kids by talking about nothing"?
SEE, NOW YOU'RE GETTING IT! that could've been another good option. you're catching on quicker than i thought. :D

WIKDLX
10-09-2003, 06:35 AM
just read through,all the smart people drive mustangs,and all the SLOW BITCHES drive gn's

BeScurred
10-09-2003, 06:41 AM
Thats funny i'm enrolled at SPSU as well hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm




























mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm:tongue:

speedvisioncavalier
10-09-2003, 10:27 AM
i used to own a mustang, but im not voting cause i dont want to skew the results, since previous ownership isnt in the scope of this poll.

Racer Babe
10-09-2003, 02:07 PM
Ok, i would never personally buy a mustang *one of the newer models* because they are so over rated. Now if someone gives me a mustang that's a different story, i will just have to appreciate what has been given to me. But, I Love the older model mustangs!! i think they are bad ass and they look good
*now don't get pissed at me Tim for that, I have told you that before* I have said my peice see ya'll tomorrow night

WIKDLX
10-09-2003, 03:24 PM
please define "overrated"

BTTWRACING86T
10-09-2003, 03:29 PM
ok i posted this to make a point why i hate mustangs and the point is thaT every god dang person has one or had one and personally thats why i call them me too cars cause everyone has one.

Racer Babe
10-09-2003, 03:30 PM
ok by that i mean, there are a bunch of them on the street and everybody thinks they are the shit!! but not all of them are. You just see so many of them out there. Everyone wants one. Overrated. They are not all that great *most of them*

PainTrain
10-09-2003, 03:46 PM
there are a lot of regals and lesabre's out there too and NONE of them are the shit.:D

WIKDLX
10-09-2003, 03:50 PM
I remember when everyone had chevy's.they were cheap and the parts were everywhere.

now mustangs(fords) have evolved into that....

gn's and t-types are cool,but why are you trying to say that they are overrated and blahblahblah..
maybe you are just jealous that we kick your ass every weekend....
when I see you Friday I'll be sure to introduce myself so that you know who's talking shit to ya

BTTWRACING86T
10-09-2003, 04:04 PM
lol ill b e sure to look for u

BTTWRACING86T
10-09-2003, 05:18 PM
see my point exactly 9 mustangs to 7 none mudstains see outta all other cars to many mustangs

mustang23LX
10-09-2003, 05:29 PM
not sure about your end but from the looks of it on my screen, it appears that folks who don't have mustangs outnumber those who do. it says 10 don't and 9 do.... :confused: :D

WNA-LOSE
10-09-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by mustang23LX
it says 10 don't and 9 do.... :confused: :D

It just seems like everyone has a Mustang...Why? Cuz thats all we talk about...You ask why agian...Cuz they are the Fastest Cars on the board...:rofl4:

Don't player hate cuz were fast...:tongue:

Racer Babe
10-09-2003, 06:41 PM
i am not hatin on the mustangs. *don't tell tim this* but i like yalls cars. Like i said in my other post, i like the older model mustangs, just not the new ones. And the reason why you guys probably are the fastest on the board is beacuse you guys have the money to do all that shit to your car. I know i don't got the money for any of that stuff.

Racer Babe
10-09-2003, 06:43 PM
Oh yeah and the poll id now
owns a mustang: 10
doesn't own a mustang: 11

well see the outcome of this eventually

cmexlr8
10-09-2003, 07:59 PM
Maybe there are more non-mustangs voting because the mustang owners do not want to further the point of this poll???

WIKDLX
10-09-2003, 08:27 PM
I have a better poll...all of you crybaby motherfucker's that dont have mustangs,how many of you can outrun us Friday the 17th at Dallas????..............the answer is NONE of you can...
like I said earlier,gn's are cool,but I would rather look like WNA or Shankin than drive the same car that my grandma has!!!

PainTrain
10-09-2003, 08:56 PM
see...we have had this convo before.....he is saying that everyone has a mustang and he does not. That makes him original and special. Does not matter that our cars kick ass week after week. In my opinion, If its originality he is after, he needs to walk around Dallas in a set of Daisy Dukes w/ "i'm a jealous pussy ass bitch" stiched on each cheek. ;)

WIKDLX
10-09-2003, 09:00 PM
word!!!

BeScurred
10-09-2003, 09:17 PM
This is the way I look at it. I can respect somebody's car if they have put the wrench time in and made the car they have thier dream car or what ever you want to call your car. There are a lot of fast mustangs out there but there are even more slow ones that the drivers thinks exhaust and a K&N air filter makes thier car a 7 second street car. I mean i can drive up on barett parkway any night of the week stop at a light see a mustang. Hold my breath and before i'm struggling for air I can see 2 or 3 more. Its a joke but then agian I think the yankees are too!

WNA-LOSE
10-09-2003, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by PAINTRAIN
he needs to walk around Dallas in a set of Daisy Dukes w/ "i'm a jealous pussy ass bitch" stiched on each cheek. ;)

Now that's funny... :rofl3:

Psychoholic
10-09-2003, 10:38 PM
I think that this poll is going to be skewed by other reasons than the ones already stated.

Mostly because people that are into Mustangs are REALLY into their Mustangs, so they spend lots of time in the community, whereas some people might not have as strong of a community that happens to frequent this board, so you are asking a question on a predominately Mustang dominated board. Go over to ls1tech.com or turbobuick.com and you won't hardly see anybody that owns a Mustang.

(this is where the pro-Mustang shit talking begins).

This is the Street Racing Forums message board, and who owns the streets? Mustangs (nutz specifically), who owns the records on the drag strips, Mustangs (Force, Brand, Lynch, etc...), what car outsells every other performance oriented car out there by more than 2 to 1? (I'll give you a hint, it starts with an M and ends with USTANGS!). The reasons are simple, and it has nothing to do with herd mentality, it's all about value and curb appeal. By design they are very pleasing to the eye, fairly well built, easy to modify and can be turned into whatever you want, everthing from road course terror, to street demon, to track destroyer, to simply a rolling stereo that looks good while muffler racing at a stop light. No other car in history has produced such a mass following of die hard fans and eternal loyalists as the Ford Mustang. I've had Camaro's, I've had Firebirds, they were fast, but the fit and finish left a great deal to be desired. Now I am the proud owner of a pair of Mustang Cobra's (as well as a slew of hearses and a truck), and they have been the best cars I've ever owned (and out of 23 cars so far, that's a pretty strong statement).

People love to hate Mustangs too, I've never seen the kind of blanketed animosity towards anything like I have seen towards the Mustang. Why is that? Because people don't like #1. It's cool to not like the guy on top, or to cheer for the underdog, but it doesn't change the reasons why #1 is #1 and will always be on top.

Chris (Psychoholic)

57fairlane
10-09-2003, 11:00 PM
well after reading everyone's post, I have come to this conclusion and it works both ways. Those that have them think a mustang is the probably the best car ever created and those that dont have them cant get over that everyone has them and they look like boxes. Thats it, you can convince one side to come to the other. Why bother anyways? Fast cars are fast cars are fast cars. Enjoy!

mustang23LX
10-09-2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by 57fairlane
Those that have them think a mustang is the probably the best car ever created and those that dont have them cant get over that everyone has them and they look like boxes.
well, it's not really even that. i mean, i know a fox body mustang isn't the best car ever created. i mean, lets get serious here - they're affordable to build and imo you can make them look great (i was stopped twice on the way home tonight from US Play just for people to tell me how much they liked the car :confused: ) BUT there are several cars i would much rather have than a fox body, they just aren't reasonable for someone on a college budget. since i buy everything for my car (including the car itself), i'm limited on what i can do. when i'm done with college, i'll begin progressing down that list though
:rockon:

57fairlane
10-10-2003, 12:21 AM
why do all threads end up nowhere? Its like the progression of a thread.
1: Controversial subject matter
2: Argument
3: Argument turns to bs
4: Everyone leaves
6: (<-ksu math) you and I stay and talk about nothing

awesome about all the people enjoying your car. I said I liked to too remember? :D Anyways rock on as usual :rock: :shades:

mustang23LX
10-10-2003, 12:23 AM
yeah, i was just pointing out that i don't really think any of us actually think the fox body mustang is the greatest car ever created...i can think of lots of cars that are much nicer/well rounded - just can't afford any of them currently lol

57fairlane
10-10-2003, 12:35 AM
oh and I before I go off to bed. The falcon has gotten her admirers on barrett as well. I guess the rust doesn't scare them off . . . :bling: Yet again, NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. Wow, that should be my user profile. Are you going to dallas tomorrow night barry? I think you said you were, if I dont end up getting a reply I am sure forrest will be heading over there sometime as well. night

mustang23LX
10-10-2003, 12:37 AM
i'll probably be there assuming we don't get rained out. i'm not running the car though, i'm taking it to steele sunday again to run the 1/4 instead.

57fairlane
10-10-2003, 12:45 AM
forget it, weather.com says 60% chance of showers tomorrow night. No seriously bed is imminent

BTTWRACING86T
10-10-2003, 10:59 AM
ok like my brother said its ok when you do the wrench time but when you buy the damn thing already runing 7's asnd 6's you really dont know jack about the car cause i am sure some of us peps on here could go out and by a 7 second 1/4 car and have fun with it but the thing is yuou didn't do the wrench time. my car today is pretty much home wrench time and i enjoy working on the car and i really enjoy smoking these freaking bitch ass kids that think there mustang with an exhaust and a k&n air filter makes there car fast they are just dumb and 90% of mustang drivers are ass holes because hey they got a mustang and its fast thats just B.S. the only fast mustang ive seen are older guy or the guys on here like barry. now barry's kool nice guy but just regular mustang guys are pricks. so this poll was to see how many guys had mustangs on here. but my the way all the guy i have talked to on this form just talk shit for the hell of it like myself and its all fun so i love talking shit to yall and i get the shit talked back to me its all fun and games.

WNA-LOSE
10-10-2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by mustang23LX
yeah, i was just pointing out that i don't really think any of us actually think the fox body mustang is the greatest car ever created...i can think of lots of cars that are much nicer/well rounded - just can't afford any of them currently lol

Yep...I would love to own this...911 TT AWD...:D Just don't have the $$$ for it yet...But when I do, It's on! ;)

WIKDLX
10-10-2003, 11:40 AM
I built my car from the groung up...bodywork/paint/susp/interior-I only paid to have a few things DONE(rollbar and 1/4 panel install-I did have friends help with body -paint and interior)...but I did not buy it turn key....i work on my car-I dont pay anyone-I am pretty sure that most people on this board do the work themselves......but it sounds like you are getting defensive and getting an ATTITUDE-dont piss me off!!

BTTWRACING86T
10-10-2003, 12:29 PM
naw man read what i said peple on here are kool about shit and almost all of yall have done work on your car urself or with help without paying for labor and shit you know i aint got a problem with anyone really on this board its all just fun trust me people will know who i got a problem with on this board. nobody right now you guys are kool with shit for the most part and i enjoy being on the boards its fun.

PainTrain
10-10-2003, 12:34 PM
i'd love to have a cobra replica w/ a big block and a stick shift...i love those cars. the ferrari dealership down the street here from jaguar has got new aston martin vanquish....thats a bad ass ride!

WNA-LOSE
10-10-2003, 12:50 PM
I bought my Silver car turn Key...I could not build the engine in that car for what I paid for it...Does that make me one of those people BTTW? Are you saying that I know nothing about cars? HHmmm...:rolleyes:

WIKDLX
10-10-2003, 01:05 PM
cool,just wanted to make sure.......

WNA,you need some help tonight?,just call me honey...

speedvisioncavalier
10-10-2003, 01:53 PM
wna, we all know you know about mustangs and cars in general, but i think he means the "rich daddys boy in highschool" that got the new fast car cause he was able to stay alive to hit his 16th birthday, while most of us had to work hard to buy a fucking 83 ford LTD beater. and when you would talk to the kid with the new car, he would have some superiority complex because you werent up to his par, yet you knew way more than him.

i think thats more of the point. you have people out there that are enthusiasts and like to go fast, and there are others out there that want to go fast, yet their only car knowledge is how to open a wallet.

BTTWRACING86T
10-10-2003, 02:22 PM
no like speedvision cavalier said we know you know mustangs like speedvisioncavalier said. you did your work on the maroon one right well thats why i know youknow mustangs.

BTTWRACING86T
10-10-2003, 02:25 PM
15 mustangs to 14 non mustangs

WIKDLX
10-10-2003, 02:47 PM
did you just call WNAa moron??or did you mean maroon?
learn how to type,most of your posts are fucked up...
and I agree with S.V.C.=I think it just comes from young rich kids...my 1st car was a 73 mustang coupe,paid a hundred bucks for it and drug it out of the woods,spent 2 years restoring it to the best of my ability and that my $5.00 an hour could afford....but,this applies to more than just mustangs,it's any kid in high school with a new car and an attitude....I am cooler than most of these punks I just grew up a little more humble(or is that in the hood?).............to make a long story short......all you fucjing punks that have your daddy build your car need a good ass whoopin for being a spoiled little bitch:eek:

1FAST50
10-10-2003, 03:38 PM
Why don't you just poll how car's are faster than your GN?:rofl2: :D

BeScurred
10-10-2003, 04:58 PM
He don't have a GN...........douche :D

Psychoholic
10-10-2003, 07:06 PM
I don't wrench on my cobra's.

It's not that I don't know anything about Mustangs, I understand the theory really well, and I worked at Prestige Mustang for 6 months tearing them to pieces, I just don't like working on them.

I do 95% of the wrenching on my hearses.

What does it matter if you do the work or you pay someone else to do the work to your car, or you buy a fast car to begin with? Does that make you less of a car guy because you didn't labor through putting it together, or you work 2 full time jobs and don't have time to work on it (like me). I would much rather have Groff Motorsports or ACD put a car together for me than me trial and error my way to a death trap

Centaur
10-10-2003, 08:51 PM
I think there's alot of good points being made on this post, but I think you guys are generally agree with each other, but you're just not listening because you're too busy trying to get your point across.

The mustang has alot of history and a really loyal following. It was originally developed to the the working mans sports car. Sold to those of us who weren't privelaged enough to buy a vette. The Corvette will always be Americas sports car (Vipers are just too exclusive). But the Mustang is a car that allows those of us who just want the styling (V-6 guys) to those of us who want a little bit of performance (GT) all the way to those who start to get serious about performance (SVT). But the bottom line is that the mustang offers a really good value for the money. That's why Ford ran the camaro/firebird outta business. Camaros were kicking the shit out of stock mustangs for a number of years. But an SS cost you 37 large (in the last years) and a firebird was basically the same. For that money, you could buy a mustang and mod it and come out with similar performance for thousands less. Now, with the 03 cobra, the tables have turned. I've seen guys slap 1500 into an 03 cobra and run 10's (easily). So for the value, mustangs are VERY, VERY difficult to beat. It's not the fastest car out there, but can be made to perform relatively cheaply and it's certainly not the slowest.

As far as attitudes go, well, I'm not sure. If you go to mustang sites (like stangnet) you'll see mustang owners saying the same sortof stuff about vette owners and viper owners. I think that car owners behave pretty similarly, regardless of their ride. They're proud and they think their ride is the shit, regardless of make/model. It just so happens that mustangs are popular and a dime/dozen.

I personally prefer a street car. If I wanted a 7 or 8 second drag car, I'm not sure that I'd pick a mustang (although a notch isn't a BAD choice). But if you're looking for a fast street car, the mustang is a great choice.

I try to do all my own wrench stuff. but there are some things that are beyond my capabilities (mainly due to lack of proper tools, rather than knowledge, but with newer cars, some things are best left to experts, who can guarantee their work). I've done most of my mods (minus the gears, cuase I don't have the equipment to properly do backlashing) and the heads (obviously I can't CNC port my own stuff and assembling the heads is tricky with cams and what not). But otherwise, I agree, I enjoy the satisfaction I feel after I've done a mod myself (there's nothing like the excitement you feel after you've worked for several hours and you're about to start it up again and go for a test spin).

Nobody likes the snot-nosed spoiled kid that shows up to the track or car meeting that talks shit bout his car and didn't work a lick to earn it and knows nothig about cars. There are several Roush and Saleen owners like that (car will skin ass straight off the showroom floor).

I think you guys have just run into a few too many bad apples, I like all kinds of cars, (if it's fast, then it's fast, I have my own tastes as far as styling goes, but you can't argue with speed).

If you own one or not, you can't argue that mustangs aren't a great value for the money you pay.

BTTWRACING86T
10-10-2003, 10:56 PM
ok relatively cheap after you buy the damn thing but good points personally i would never own one because everyones got them and 99% of the freaking bitch ass high school kids think there cobra this or i have even heard my v-6 mustang is fast as hell with nothing done to it but high school punk kids say there mustangs fast with an exhaust and a k&n no 95% of mustangs on the road couldn't even handle a stock gn much less my minor modded ttype. overall like i said most guys are kool on the board and if your a hs kid that daddy buys a whatever for you and you personally dont do anything to it other than change the oil you dont deserve the right to talk shit. wikdlx sorry i make mistakes typing mr. fu(king perfect.

Centaur
10-10-2003, 11:03 PM
Um,

What does a GN run stock? Honestly, I've never seen any on the street. The only place I see them is at the track. But I'd be willing to bet that more than 5% of mustangs on the street could handle a stock GN.

The newer GT's are the fastest GT's ever and mustangs get faster and faster each year (stock). Not to mention the newer cobras.

Again, I'm going out on a limb, cause I know absolutely jack shit about GN's, but I would think that stock, they're not going to keep up with a stock GT or cobra.

Mr. Torque
10-11-2003, 12:04 AM
I didnt vote on this pole even though I do own 3 mustangs.......A Drag mustang, 99 GT, All original non restored perfect condition 79 Cobra. I however, am a Ford Man. I love the older shit like my Fairlane the best but I will say this.........In my opinion, there isnt a better dragstrip platform ever produced for the dragstrip by ANY manufacturer. As far as the car itself goes, and dollar for dollar on the powertrain, Its like a sore dick, you just cant beat it.;)

WNA-LOSE
10-11-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by BTTWRACING86T
1. high school punk kids

2. 95% of mustangs on the road couldn't even handle a stock gn

1. You're that kid!

2. You find a stock GN and I'll get a Stock 03 GT and will line them up...Let's say for $100.00...Got the balls?

57fairlane
10-11-2003, 12:37 AM
I thought this thread was over . . .

WIKDLX
10-11-2003, 07:27 AM
BTTW....
quit your fucking whining......
just shut the fuck up.......
thank you,
Mr. Fucking Perfect

PainTrain
10-11-2003, 09:34 AM
you know, bottom line is fast is fast...thats correct. A gn has some novelty to it but it will never be a v8....i dont see any gn's at dallas running 5's,6's...anyone else? Go buy a mustang daisy duke and quit playing w/ high school kids.

mustang23LX
10-11-2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by PAINTRAIN
i dont see any gn's at dallas running 5's,6's...anyone else?
well, not a GN but still two t-types were running 6's - i lost to one of them a few fridays back. the other doesn't mph well but 60's like crazy and still has the e/t so that's all that matters.

WIKDLX
10-11-2003, 10:04 AM
thats right......it's all about e.t.

BeScurred
10-11-2003, 10:13 AM
Yea the white one that Dana has will run 6.20's. It still has AC and he doesn't even spray it. Hes also in the process of building a tubbed out GN with a stage 2 motor who knows what that thing is gonna do.

ScaryFast
10-11-2003, 10:33 AM
Shhh, Boy! That is a secret. You better edit that. Don't be talking like that. It will about a year before that is done. So no need in talking about that right now. You can talk about it when it happens, just not at this time. OK.

WIKDLX
10-11-2003, 10:39 AM
too bad,I already read it and I am telling everyone......

you bitches are lucky that the fast stangs didnt come out las night....

speedvisioncavalier
10-11-2003, 10:39 AM
hahahahaha @ non secret keepers.

ScaryFast
10-11-2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by WIKDLX

you bitches are lucky that the fast stangs didnt come out las night.... What stopped them? I was there waittin on the lightning. :bash:

WIKDLX
10-11-2003, 10:50 AM
I called on my way and was told that it was starting to rain,so I didnt go.
My Mustang races at the track,you know where I race the truck!!
BITCH

ScaryFast
10-11-2003, 10:54 AM
I will be out to find you tonight.

WIKDLX
10-11-2003, 11:11 AM
I wont be hard to find,I'll be the white truck in front of you....

ScaryFast
10-11-2003, 12:47 PM
You will eat those words.